Hudson2
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If anybody could make NC serviceable at 3b it’d be Ron Washington.
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If anybody could make NC serviceable at 3b it’d be Ron Washington.
PawPawMaxwell
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IMO Castellanos would be the ideal pickup IF it was a certainty that the DH is coming in 2022. Otherwise signing him now would mandate a trade before too long if the prospects mature as expected.
Southcack77
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I'm perfectly happy not having signed Todd Frazier.
I don't want any part of Chris Archer in any scenario.
Castellanos is my preference if we're gonna go cheap at 3b. His numbers in Chicago were fantastic, so not worried about his ability to hit NL pitching. And his defense is trending upwards in the OF.
Ozuna is tough to figure out. His 2019 peripherals were actually in line with his 2017 season. BB Rate, HR rate, LD%, all were at 2017 levels. But he didn't see any practical improvement from the 2018 season as a whole. His BABIP in 2017 and 2019 is separated by 100 points, so his true value is somewhere in the middle, but I do worry that Ozuna is simply what his career stats say he is. That's a useful player, but I don't know that it's someone I'd commit more than 3 years to, and I do think there's a good chance it's gonna take at least 4/60 to get him. Plus he has a draft pick loss attached to him.
Ozuna is tough to figure out. His 2019 peripherals were actually in line with his 2017 season. BB Rate, HR rate, LD%, all were at 2017 levels. But he didn't see any practical improvement from the 2018 season as a whole. His BABIP in 2017 and 2019 is separated by 100 points, so his true value is somewhere in the middle, but I do worry that Ozuna is simply what his career stats say he is. That's a useful player, but I don't know that it's someone I'd commit more than 3 years to, and I do think there's a good chance it's gonna take at least 4/60 to get him. Plus he has a draft pick loss attached to him.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I can understand your view but OTOH Braves had considerable interest in him in the past and even today I don't think he would be that detrimental as a backend starter.
striker42
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It really isn't AA's fault. It not a great situation. There's no clearly correct choice unless some fantastic trade falls into our lap. Everything is going to have a downside. Either we settle for less or we overpay. Neither is ideal.
He's literally now a replacement level pitcher with only one successful pitch. Maybe he could find success as an almost slider-exclusive short reliever, but I wouldn't want to be the ones to try it.
We were just trying to sign JD at 20+ million per year. Why would we have to get rid of salary to take on player(s) making less than that? That makes zero sense.
tululush
New member
I think from a production standpoint, Marte is the answer. However, the logjam in the outfield that he creates is less than ideal.
He had 43 HR and 60 SB in 277 games during 2018 and 2019, hit .295 w/ .342 OBP in 2019, and is only owed $11.5M in 2020, with a $12.5M team option in 2021 that has a $1M buyout. The length and $ seems perfect, but that will surely drive up the prospect capital required to trade for him.
He had 43 HR and 60 SB in 277 games during 2018 and 2019, hit .295 w/ .342 OBP in 2019, and is only owed $11.5M in 2020, with a $12.5M team option in 2021 that has a $1M buyout. The length and $ seems perfect, but that will surely drive up the prospect capital required to trade for him.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Frazier on a one-year deal is better than most of the options that have been discussed around here.
~15 million per season seems to be the common opinion. The years is the question. He's looking for a 4 year deal. I would do 3/45 with a 4th year option and 5 million buyout.
Southcack77
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The expected stats suggest that last year should have been the best season of Ozuna's career as a hitter. Obviously did not turn out that way in the stat book. I'd be happy to sign him.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
1) Numbers in NL are a small sample.
2) Recent outfield defense numbers are a small sample. Which for defense is even more volatile than offensive numbers.
3) Depends on price and years.
Took that quote on Marte directly from The Athletic article I see. Nicely done.
Well, this got my attention. Where do you see those?
Southcack77
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I guess I don't understand why the Braves would also be asking for Archer in a Marte deal. He's not really the kind of salary that it makes a whole lot of sense to try and dump and it's questionable whether the Braves really need someone like him right now. I think it would absolutely be reasonable for some club to take a shot at him returning to a mid 3 FIP at 8m. Particularly one that is confident in its pitching management.