LOL, I mean he is a former 6th overall prospect compared to Senzel's number 2 overall. That's gotta be close enough in value. We'll throw in Braxton Davidson to even it out.
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LOL, I mean he is a former 6th overall prospect compared to Senzel's number 2 overall. That's gotta be close enough in value. We'll throw in Braxton Davidson to even it out.
Senzel is damn good. correct: he'd only be used to help land a big fish at a position of need. they aren't hoping to move him because actually he stinks.
Freshmaker
Arbitration Eligible
Yep. That's the downside of going cheap and signing Cy instead of paying the market rate for SAV
zbhargrove
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Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
They have Urquidy, Whitley, and some others but i think they trade for a SP before the year or sign one to a 1 year deal.
That was a Dusty joke. Three-man rotation , 9 innings every night, okay, fine, I'll carry one reliever for extra inning games!
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Wonder if Braves still have interest in Greinke under right circumstances?
Heyward
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Astros are an analytical ran team. Dont think he'd be there except for being a manager before.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
He'll be 28 next free agency, he can get to 10 years. He'll probably top Harper's deal, dont think he's getting near Trout money.
I think he gets around 10/350 to 360.
I think it's a PR move. Look who our new manager is, everyone respects him to do **** the right way!
i should have said damn valuable. regardless, he doesn’t have the same issues Riley had. his are less concerning IMO. and will be a better defender. comparing the wRC+ with no other context doesn’t mean much.
zbhargrove
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Okay, what about their last stints in AAA?
2019 AAA for Riley:
10.3 BB% 20.1 K% 146 wRC+ in 194 plate appearances
2018 AAA for Senzel:
9.8 BB% 20.2 K% 149 wRC+ in 193 plate appearances
And as far as defense, that was always supposed to be Senzel's issue. Seems most agree that Riley has turned into an average to slightly above average defender.
Not sure what context you're looking for exactly... Senzel's 90 wRC+ was in 414 plate appearances. Quite a large sample and still 10% below average.
For the record, I'm not big on Riley but Senzel is very overrated.
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bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I am excited to see what Riley can bring to the team next year. He was so young and just couldn’t adjust quick enough but he always came out strong his second trip through a league. I agree he starts in AAA but I doubt he will stay down long.
lordy.
Senzel was a 60FV and Riley was a 55FV. i feel this gap has grown, as i'd keep Senzel the same and move Riley down a bit based on his issues.
Senzel has a better minor league track record.
Riley came up and K'd 36.4% of the time with a 5.4% BB rate. his issue were/are absolutely glaring.
Senzel came up and and K'd 24.4% of the time. that difference is enormous. 7.2% BB rate...also a good bit better, especially compared with the K-rate.
Senzel is a better defender. i'm not sure that's debatable. perhaps it was a knock on him when drafted, but much like Riley, it's not anymore, but he's still a better defender who will also help more on the base paths.
Riley's wRC+ is heavily thrown off by his very unsustainable hot start. once pitchers found his weak spots he was getting eaten alive pretty much every single AB. Senzel didn't have nearly the same degree of problems.
IMO Riley's issue(s) is/are glaring and no one knows if it's something he can really fix. he's completely guessing up at the plate and pitchers know it. Senzel doesn't have the same kind of issue. Senzel is a better, more valuable piece.
so all of that is context you're leaving out.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Market value is about halfway between the Sox offer and the counter. On a 10 year deal about 350M. On a 12 year deal about 380M. It would make sense for Mookie to negotiate this with the Sox. I wonder about the relationship between the Sox and him.