The Coronavirus, not the beer

Metaphysicist said:
lol, still a chance of only 12,500 deaths because the virus has been spreading like wildfire here since October and hydrox cookies have a 100% cure rate.
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Never said anything about cure rates only that its helped people. I know you posted it here because of the recent study which should get attention.

I guess I could be you and never say anything definitive so you cant be called out for you actually believing h iij ndreds of thiusand to millions would die.
 
thethe said:
Never said anything about cure rates only that its helped people.
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If I can find a post where you use the words "100% cure rate" will you agree to just stop posting your "on the record" information?

BTW, You also said liberals had blood on their hands for just asking for clinical trials. Pretty sure Fauci urging caution is why you decided he was part of the deep state. So, to now pretend "hey, I was just saying it could help" is... embarrassing for you.

I also note you don't even pretend those other two "on the record" positions you've wasted time in this thread arguing are even plausible.

thethe said:
Hospitalizations still the real crisis?
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Don't even know what this means. Obviously overwhelming hospitals is bad? But so are dead people? I assume this is reference to some other fever dream you have.
 
weso1 said:
We are officially in full panic mode and I think that may be a good thing. Strong social separation is taking place before this thing gets way out of control. Based on what I've read the biggest key is to have enough hospital care for those who need it. Hopefully by panicking now that will slow the spread enough to not have issues here.
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from March 12

very prescient post imo...panicking (social separation) saved a lot of lives...if people had waited a week, I think the peak would have been a multiple worse
 
nsacpi said:
from March 12

very prescient post imo...panicking (social separation) saved a lot of lives...if people had waited a week, I think the peak would have been a multiple worse
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No evidence that this saved "a lot" of lives.
 
Metaphysicist said:
If I can find a post where you use the words "100% cure rate" will you agree to just stop posting your "on the record" information?

BTW, You also said liberals had blood on their hands for just asking for clinical trials. Pretty sure Fauci urging caution is why you decided he was part of the deep state. So, to now pretend "hey, I was just saying it could help" is... embarrassing for you.

I also note you don't even pretend those other two "on the record" positions you've wasted time in this thread arguing are even plausible.



Don't even know what this means. Obviously overwhelming hospitals is bad? But so are dead people? I assume this is reference to some other fever dream you have.
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You act like the models were right because of the various scenarios but the key item they got tr terribly wrong were the hospitalizations.

It's a bad flu. Nothing more. We just dont have a vaccine.
 
Metaphysicist said:
Don't even know what this means. Obviously overwhelming hospitals is bad? But so are dead people? I assume this is reference to some other fever dream you have.
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NY hospitals were overwhelmed...they responded by adjusting their protocols for admitting very sick people...the data suggest that a larger proportion of COVID-19 deaths occurred away from hospitals in NY city than anywhere else
 
nsacpi said:
I think it is pretty clear that the growth rate of infections slowed markedly after mid-March...the evidence is actually overwhelming on this
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Confirmed infections. You are neglecting incubation which takes it back anywhere from 1-2 weeks. Spread was slowing fast just like it is in sweden.

Didnt need china lockdown.
 
thethe said:
Confirmed infections. You are neglecting incubation which takes it back anywhere from 1-2 weeks. Spread was slowing fast just like it is in sweden.

Didnt need china lockdown.
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we can dispute the role of spontaneous social distancing relative to government mandated action, but there is no doubt that panic (social distancing) setting in around March 12 per weso's post saved a tremendous number of lives

it's a very good thing the general public came to the conclusion this was not "just the flu"
 
nsacpi said:
we can dispute the role of spontaneous social distancing relative to government mandated action, but there is no doubt that panic (social distancing) setting in around March 12 per weso's post saved a tremendous number of lives
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Social distancing was happening before and it's all that needed to be done.

There is some interesting reading that staying inside in large apartment complexes helped continue the spread.

It's a big reason why we are seeing a longer than expected plateau
 
Metaphysicist said:
lol, still a chance of only 12,500 deaths because the virus has been spreading like wildfire here since October and hydrox cookies have a 100% cure rate.
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Don't forget these doozies:


thethe said:
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Even 50k deaths seems unrealistic
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thethe said:
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The assumptions were so bad early on would anyone be surprised if we dont even get 50k deaths?
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thethe said:
Based on what we have learned about the virus transmission its highly unlikely that only 10m in the country have it considering it's been here since November at the latest.

Every major population center probably has a 30-40% infection rate.
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thethe said:
THat is the whole purpose of the social distancing measures and hte quarantines. To buy us time to ramp up capacity and find treatment measures.

As more successful trials come on on Hydroxychloroquine we will see that it will be the key factor in not having death rates in excess of .1%.

In addition to slowing the curve you are actually killing infections in the infected population without transmission to a new host. That resets the curve back tremendously.

What we have done already can buy us another month or two of regular business (with simple social distancing aspects adopted) until we have to consider another form of extreme measure.

But the continuation of our econcomy is essential and if the hydroxychloroquine is as good as reported then we won't have to stop at all and then the next step is an approved vaccine.
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thethe said:
You act like the models were right because of the various scenarios but the key item they got tr terribly wrong were the hospitalizations.

It's a bad flu. Nothing more. We just dont have a vaccine.
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Well that would immediately make it not merely a "bad flu."
 
thethe said:
Social distancing was happening before and it's all that needed to be done.
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really? there was little adjustment in behavior in late Feb/early March

by mid-March people were scared and had spontaneously adopted big changes in behavior

the NBA suspending the season on March 11/weso's post on March 12...that's about the time panic set in
 
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