PawPawMaxwell
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Wonder what influence Perry will have on the Angels going forward. Are there any attractive assets that AA could use his pitching excess for?
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The Angels seem like a prime candidate to take on Harper
nsacpi
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their experience with the Pujols deal suggests otherwise
PawPawMaxwell
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My answer to Harper situation (not to sound like clv) would be to wait on Arenado to go past his opt out or waive it and see if Phils would take Arenado for Harper and then Phils could cash in on Bohm.
PawPawMaxwell
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And Upton and Rendon et al. Seriously tho one would hope that AA has had some influence on Miniason and there has to be a little reason why Moreno went the Perry route with all the GMs looking for jobs.
I don’t think AA jumped the gun. I think he got ahead of the market. Could he have gotten them for less if he waited? Probably. But he’s gone ahead and addressed a major team need with the players he wanted on one year deals. There is value in that.
PawPawMaxwell
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I think I read that Cohen has $10B more than the next richest owner.
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Only fault I can see is that the moves validate the depleted value in Wright, Touki and maybe even Davidson among some others possibly.
Their experience with Pujols and Hamilton suggests they love making a splash
Far from saying I (or any of the rest of us) "knew" anything, but this is why I've been so in favor of AA "ambushing the market" - even if he overpays a bit.
Go get Shaw and Pederson/Rosario/Mazara and re-sign Duvall NOW, and let everybody else struggle where all this craziness is going, Fill the holes, then adjust.
He knows where the cutoff is - lock up the 3B/LF platoons - assuming the plan isn't to try to sign Springer or Brantley instead - while everybody's heads are still spinning, then decide what to do about the DH if/when somebody actually makes a decision on whether there's going to be one or not.
FIFY. Those signings came when someone was in place that assumed Moreno was going to just keep writing checks and that he couldn't care less about the luxury tax.
How much value could they possibly have???
Their clocks have long been started and the shine is off the rose. Doesn't mean that they can't still "figure it out" at some point, but they're burning service-time every day you have to have them spend in AAA trying to learn how to throw strikes.
See Newcomb, Sean.
NYCBrave
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Let's not forget though. The braves were among the teams who did lay off a good amount of their staffers.
Obviously that’s true but it does burn their options which have their own value.
Wright Touki and Wilson to a degree are troubled assets although they may have some added value this year. Young cheap controllable arms with potential but inconsistent and underperforming. A team rebuilding might be interested in them. Wright and Touki have for sure have to be viewed as fixer uppers at this point though and would be valued by other teams as such.
Maybe - hopefully, anyway.
While they're not officially burning service time while struggling at AAA, that value drops each day - Newk particularly. When the big club was so desperate for ANYONE to step up and "take" a rotation spot in 2020 - even if that meant getting through a lineup JUST ONCE - and you can't even throw enough strikes to be given a chance, you've officially reached "throw-in" status. Nobody's trading for Newk at this point. Right now he's a 27 year old RP who couldn't be trusted not to throw gas on the fire if he was being used in a mop-up role the last time anyone saw him. The same could be said about Touki - although he does have the added benefit of being 3 years younger. If either of them had proven capable of getting 12 outs while giving up 3 runs or less last summer, they'd have been used once every five days. The reason they wanted Newk to start over and completely revamp his delivery is simple - this is it for him. He wasn't even worthy of using in games before they were completely out of hand, and getting 6 outs in those games is sometimes even more important than getting outs to start the game - just get the players off the field so they can try to dig out of the big hole the SP dug for them.
EVERY organization thinks they can "fix" guys with tools - that's the nature of coaching. They're not trading for them as "pieces" though - they're sweeteners. They've each got one option left - if you have to fix them again the next time they fall apart you have to consider releasing them.
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i would much rather AA wait and try and get a much better player on a 1-year deal than go with this plan.
PawPawMaxwell
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"Holes" are the entire bottom of the batting order. High strikeout rates and low OBP will not fix those holes.