The Coronavirus, not the beer

I quite honestly am at the point where I dont give a ****. Lets return everything to normal and whoever dies dies. The most vunerable people also like to vote away my rights so **** em. Maybe this is how we avoid the idiocracy future we are apparently aiming for.
 
Everyone should ask why our health officials are only discussing vaccination rates when calculating herd immunity.

It’s incredibly dishonest and should raise eyebrows.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I quite honestly am at the point where I dont give a ****. Lets return everything to normal and whoever dies dies. The most vunerable people also like to vote away my rights so **** em. Maybe this is how we avoid the idiocracy future we are apparently aiming for.
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What rights are you having voted away?
 
thethe said:
Anyone?
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It is a relevant question.

But where are the data on people who have been infected? I don't think antibodies testing has been that widely done.

Also there is the group that has been infected AND vaccinated. So you can't just add up the number vaccinated and the number infected. You also need to know the intersection. But someone should be trying to understand this. It is a legit question.
 
nsacpi said:
It is a relevant question.

But where are the data on people who have been infected? I don't think antibodies testing has been that widely done.

Also there is the group that has been infected AND vaccinated. So you can't just add up the number vaccinated and the number infected. You also need to know the intersection. But someone should be trying to understand this. It is a legit question.
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I've mentioned the intersection of the two as well.

The question needs to be addressed in the public forum because the protection conveyed from prior infection is effectively the same. However, all we hear is VACCINES VACCINES VACCINES.

We should all wonder why.
 
thethe said:
I've mentioned the intersection of the two as well.

The question needs to be addressed in the public forum because the protection conveyed from prior infection is effectively the same. However, all we hear is VACCINES VACCINES VACCINES.

We should all wonder why.
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The government is trying to encourage people to get vaccinated not infected (at least not since the glory days of Scott Atlas). That's one reason we hear more about vaccines.
 
makes me laugh that it comes out that 99% of the people dying are unvaccinated people

and the next thing we see is a lot of prevalent republicans begging people to get vaccinated

it's like the realized that means their voters are dying lol
 
nsacpi said:
The government is trying to encourage people to get vaccinated not infected. That's one reason we hear more about vaccines.
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Why encourage the tens of millions of people to get a useless treatment when they already have the antibodies and T-Cell memory? Especially a treatment that only has emergency authorization.

If it was truly about public health as we are told then this would be up front and center so the population is aware.
 
My MIL who is a Dr called Phizer and asked about antibodies after her husband didn't produce any after the first vaccine.

She was asking about how they test for this stuff.

Long story short, the Phizer rep said "we don't do that nor do we encourage it"
 
sturg33 said:
My MIL who is a Dr called Phizer and asked about antibodies after her husband didn't produce any after the first vaccine.

She was asking about how they test for this stuff.

Long story short, the Phizer rep said "we don't do that nor do we encourage it"
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Of course they dont' encourage it.

If we actually educated the population on natural immunity, therapeutics and just general health care NOBODY would take the vaccine and they wouldn't make billions.

This is just so obvious but you have people trying to shame others for bringing this to the forefront.

Its embarrassing how people are shilling out for Big Pharma right now.
 
sturg33 said:
My MIL who is a Dr called Phizer and asked about antibodies after her husband didn't produce any after the first vaccine.

She was asking about how they test for this stuff.

Long story short, the Phizer rep said "we don't do that nor do we encourage it"
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I believe doctors are testing people with weak immune system to see if they have mounted a defense. There are some people (such as certain cancer survivors) for whom the vaccines don't work. Also some of the vaccines made by China and Russia are not producing an immunte reaction in a certain percentage of the population.
 
thethe said:
Ok well that is a different claim than what was made.

Maybe Goldy should either provide a source or clarify.
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From the AP:

June 28, 2021 – If you, a friend or a loved one remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 at this point – for whatever reason – you are at higher risk for dying if you do become infected.

That's the conclusion of a new report The Associated Press released looking at COVID-19 deaths during May 2021.

Of more than 18,000 people who died from COVID-19, for example, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That's less than 1%.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...ll-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated
 
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