Simmons signed to 7 year extension

thewupk said:
I think that's something to come down actually as he matures as a hitter. Even if he doesn't it's not impossible for him to have a 300is BABIP as he showed briefly in 2012.
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It will be damned hard with 10% of his balls being homers or auto outs. That would mean he'd have to hit a lot more LDs than he has. Maybe his swing will change but it's not 2 seasons in and his IFFB has remained pretty constant.
 
zitothebrave said:
It will be damned hard with 10% of his balls being homers or auto outs. That would mean he'd have to hit a lot more LDs than he has. Maybe his swing will change but it's not 2 seasons in and his IFFB has remained pretty constant.
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Yeah. But he also hit more flyballs then groudballs from the two seasons. 12% more. Yeah that did make his homerun total jump some but it caused his BABIP to take a dump in the process.
 
thewupk said:
Yeah. But he also hit more flyballs then groudballs from the two seasons. 12% more. Yeah that did make his homerun total jump some but it caused his BABIP to take a dump in the process.
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Yes but his IFFB stayed the same.

SSS reigned in 2012.

According to B-Ref his BABIP on GB/LD/FB in 2012 was .265/.909/.051 the league average was .238/.707/.135. So he was lucky on both GB and LD and unlucky on FB. That isn't a shock though since he had 7 IFFB. In 2013, his BABIP was .183/.598/.093 compared to the league average of .236/.649/.111 if he bumped up to league average in all those splits, excet FB (he's about where he belongs there maybe a little high) he would have added 17 hits, it would pull his BABIP up to .276. NOt .300. He has to cut down on his IFFB% and add more LDs or GBs to have a shot.
 
For all you stat folks out there, MLBN said according to percentages or something...Simba could be two or three times better than anyone else in the field.
 
zitothebrave said:
Yes but his IFFB stayed the same.

SSS reigned in 2012.

According to B-Ref his BABIP on GB/LD/FB in 2012 was .265/.909/.051 the league average was .238/.707/.135. So he was lucky on both GB and LD and unlucky on FB. That isn't a shock though since he had 7 IFFB. In 2013, his BABIP was .183/.598/.093 compared to the league average of .236/.649/.111 if he bumped up to league average in all those splits, excet FB (he's about where he belongs there maybe a little high) he would have added 17 hits, it would pull his BABIP up to .276. NOt .300. He has to cut down on his IFFB% and add more LDs or GBs to have a shot.
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He had a 310 BABIP in 2013 with a lower LD%. Anything is possible.
 
thewupk said:
He had a 310 BABIP in 2013 with a lower LD%. Anything is possible.
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As I pointed out, he was lucky, he should have had a few less hits in 2012 based on league average. I pointed to about where he should have been in 2013, which would be in the .280 range which I think is fair for him. Because of his IFFB% you can't just do the .120 like you normally do.
 
2B Alomar or Joe Morgan (for all you kids out there, he was a hell of a lot more fun to watch play 2B than listen to as an announcer).

LF - F€^% it, defense doesn't matter. Greg Luzinski. Evan Gattis, maybe.

Also, Mike Schmidt should be in the conversation at 3B.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
2B Alomar or Joe Morgan (for all you kids out there, he was a hell of a lot more fun to watch play 2B than listen to as an announcer).

LF - F€^% it, defense doesn't matter. Greg Luzinski. Evan Gattis, maybe.

Also, Mike Schmidt should be in the conversation at 3B.
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LF defense doesn't matter? Tell Kris Medlen that.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
2B Alomar or Joe Morgan (for all you kids out there, he was a hell of a lot more fun to watch play 2B than listen to as an announcer).

LF - F€^% it, defense doesn't matter. Greg Luzinski. Evan Gattis, maybe.

Also, Mike Schmidt should be in the conversation at 3B.
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Schmidt is an all-time great, but Brooks was on another level. For careers right now, you have 3 guys who just outclass the competition, Brooks, Ozzie and Druw. That's not to downplay the ability of others, they were just transcendent defenders.
 
OT Fun Factoid. According to fangraphs defensive numbers, Jason is already one of the 15 best defenders in RF. Including guys who didn't primarily play RF like Franklin Gutierrez. Fun Factoid number 2, in the UZR era, Jason is the second highest qualified RF Ichiro is the only one higher than him with about double the runs saved in 3 times the innings.
 
zitothebrave said:
Schmidt is an all-time great, but Brooks was on another level. For careers right now, you have 3 guys who just outclass the competition, Brooks, Ozzie and Druw. That's not to downplay the ability of others, they were just transcendent defenders.
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I saw Brooks and do not feel that he was transcendent. He was the best, but Schmidt was terrific, too. At short, I think Omar Vizquel was better than Ozzie. Slick as Ozzie was, he never had a great arm, and toward the end it was below average. Viz had a gun. Less flash, made all the plays Ozzie made and a few more deep in the hole. Simmons is better than both. But it's only been a year.

I'm with you on Andruw Jones. I was sitting right above him for his best Spider-Man catch.
 
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