The truth shouldn't disappoint anyone.
This is a pandemic of the unhealthy and not one of the unmasked or unvaccinated. Its just a lazy classification because we aren't allowed to hurt peoples feelings anymore.
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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The truth shouldn't disappoint anyone.
This is a pandemic of the unhealthy and not one of the unmasked or unvaccinated. Its just a lazy classification because we aren't allowed to hurt peoples feelings anymore.
sturg33
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Calling it what it is does not support the agenda
Lying about masks and super spreaders etc fully support the agenda
The agenda >>>>>>>>
nsacpi
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it is a pandemic in which there are multiple factors affecting outcomes...one is pre-existing conditions such as obesity...another is vaccination status...i'm heartened by your endorsement of the truth
sturg33
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Don't forget seasonalities like Sweden!
And both impact the individual.
There are no externalities with either other than the freakout from people like you who are more than happy to put hundreds of millions of people into poverty because of their choices.
FYI - A healthy unvaccinated person is still at less risk than an unhealthy vaccinated individual.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
dude...you are the one who appears to be a late convert to seasonal factors which affect how much time people spend indoors...all i can say is welcome aboard...what took ya so long
sturg33
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Lol
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
if an infectious disease is not an example of an externality then there isn't any such thing
How are there externalities when both vaccinated and unvaccinated spread and contract the virus at the same rate? Seems like a push and therefore not relevant to the conversation.
sturg33
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He can continue to deny the undeniable all he wants. He is wrong yet again.
And as we continue to see more data from vaccinated individuals it will become even more clear.
The biggest thing I believe we will see as the data becomes more mature is that the mass vaccination efforts will be viewed as a massive mistake when the CCP virus effectively learns how to bypass the new experimental treatment and renders it useless. Apparently T-Cell immunity is more sophisticated (SHOCKER!!!)
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I believe
1) an unvaccinated person is more likely to spread covid
2) an unvaccinated person is more likely to require medical care (the cost of which is largely socialized through insurance)
3) an unvaccinated person is more likely to become disabled (another cost born by the rest of us rather than the individual making the choice not to be vaccinated)
Those are all examples of what makes an infectious disease a source of externalities
Additionally there is the greater risk of new variants arising if large parts of the population remain unvaccinated. Also an example of an externality.
You can believe (1) and your final point all you want.
There is nothing in the data that suggests this and we are actually getting information that directly goes against your 'beliefs'.
Further, (2) & (3) biggest driver is quality of health of the individual and not vaccination status. I get why you want to make it about vaccines to push your beliefs on others but it just isn't true and it will never be true.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
i'm not arguing that vaccination status is the only thing affecting a person's health...that's not necessary for my second and third points to be valid
But you completely ignore the most important factor since an unvaccinated healthy person is less at risk than a vaccinated unhealthy person.
Facts are a tricky thing for you these days my friend.
For some reason there came a point in your life where you wanted to ignore all evidence and data and replaced them with your feelings.
Thats why you thought the Trump administration was a failure and thats why you think healthy people should be vaccinated.