The Coronavirus, not the beer

Think about all the deaths the epidemiologists caused for decades by not pushing masks... up until April 2020 the consensus was they were useless. Epimdieolgists are responsible for tens of millions of deaths

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sturg33 said:
They aren't masking hard enough!

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Australia is going to be severely ****ed once the people rightfully overthrow their tyrannical government.

Its basically a clean population not exposed at all to the most extreme strains.

It's going to be bad once they return to normal and of course it will be blamed on going back to normal and not their draconian interventions.
 
sturg33 said:
Think about all the deaths the epidemiologists caused for decades by not pushing masks... up until April 2020 the consensus was they were useless. Epimdieolgists are responsible for tens of millions of deaths

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The amusing thing is that now the argument being made is "Masks have stopped the flu! See they work!"

Then we find out that not only does the PCR test not differentiate between the flu - Doctors just stopped altogether diagnosing the flu and reverted to CCP virus.
 
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Tapate50 said:
There is very little we are going to be able to do mitigating this. Lockdowns, masks, etc are all factors that are showing little to no effectiveness.

We are all gonna get exposed to it, and there's not much we can do about that at this point.
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This has been obvious from day 1.

Some of us got it right in real time.
 
sturg33 said:
But the places with the mask madates would have been. lot worse without them, I'm sure of it!

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Its simple science.

Majority of spread is aerosol.

Size of aerosol particles are 10-20% (Conservative estimate) of the size of the particles in cloth masks.

Cloth masks do nothing.
 
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sturg33 said:
Its like a chain link fence stopping a mosquito
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this is an interesting analogy

it breaks down at two levels

1) Mosquitos have the capability to sense the difference between a solid object (the link in a fence) and the empty space between the links. And they will fly through the empty space and avoid the links. A virus or aerosol particle lacks this capability.

2) The ratio of links in a fence to empty space between links is quite low. In contrast, the ratio of strands of fiber in a mask to the empty space between strands of fiber is quite high. Of course, sometimes the virus will get through a gap between the strands of fiber. No one has claimed that masks are perfect. But quite a high proportion of virus expelled when we breath or talk ends up colliding with strands of fiber.
 
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You are free to quintuple down on masks being effective and I am free to mock you endlessly for a completely anti science, anti data, complete faith based belief
 
I didn't realize Australia has compulsory voting. Looks like the poor people of Australia have been dealing with this form of tyranny since 1924. No wonder they have accepted the new forms like sheep. They have been shaped to do so by the tyranny of compulsory voting since 1924. If they don't vote, they have to pay a fine.

Voting is also compulsory in Singapore. If you don't vote, you are disqualified from voting in future elections. You have to provide an acceptable explanation or pay a fine to have your voting rights restored. What tyranny.
 
nsacpi said:
I didn't realize Australia has compulsory voting. Looks like the poor people of Australia have been dealing with this form of tyranny since 1924. No wonder they have accepted the new forms like sheep. They have been shaped to do so by the tyranny of compulsory voting since 1924. If they don't vote, they have to pay a fine.

Voting is also compulsory in Singapore. If you don't vote, you are disqualified from voting in future elections. You have to provide an acceptable explanation or pay a fine to have your voting rights restored. What tyranny.
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I actually don't like compulsory voting. Having large portions of your population who don't want to vote can be a sign of a healthy democracy as they feel things will be bad no matter who gets elected.
 
striker42 said:
I actually don't like compulsory voting. Having large portions of your population who don't want to vote can be a sign of a healthy democracy as they feel things will be bad no matter who gets elected.
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I have no strong opinion on fines for not voting. But in general I find it refreshing when a jurisdiction works to increase voting.
 
Doctor stating she will go triage on patients and the “smartest people in the room” are upset and compare it to Nazi germany
 
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Doctor stating she will go triage on patients and the “smartest people in the room” are upset and compare it to Nazi germany
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There is nothing you won't support.

So as mentioned, before I never understood how the public went along with such atrocities.

Now I completely understand
 
sturg33 said:
There is nothing you won't support.

So as mentioned, before I never understood how the public went along with such atrocities.

Now I completely understand
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I think in that particular case the doctor would be interfering with the patient's right to suicide by covid. These rights and freedoms must be safeguarded.

I might add when a patient makes this choice he or she has a moral obligation not to pass on the costs of the choice to others.
 
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