The Biden Presidency

Jaw said:
I did say temporary. I don't think many of us would classify a vasectomy that way.
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They can be reversed. It isn’t permanent

I’m shocked to find you dont want to force medical procedures on males

Just as shocked you have no issues doing the opposite to females though
 
goldfly said:
Again, in case you overlooked it


Btw, the “human” at 6 weeks

“ At week 6, the fetus is about 1/8 to 1/4 inch in length, or about the size of a pomegranate seed or grain of rice. The fetus looks something like a tadpole, with a small tail that will become a spinal column.”
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Exactly who are you to say what time frame a human is or is not a human?
 
goldfly said:
They can be reversed. It isn’t permanent

I’m shocked to find you dont want to force medical procedures on males

Just as shocked you have no issues doing the opposite to females though
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In some cases they can be reversed... they tell you its a bout a 50/50 chance... I had one... was super fun. Would not recommend
 
In general I'm pro life all they way. However, I do support early term abortions for rape and health of the mother, etc...
 
goldfly said:
They can be reversed. It isn’t permanent

I’m shocked to find you dont want to force medical procedures on males

Just as shocked you have no issues doing the opposite to females though
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You're grasping at straws in outrage at a post where I said I wish everyone could have access to temporary sterilization medication.
 
sturg33 said:
Who are these people that think people should be able to live free forever?

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Technically me, although not necessarily in their current homes at the expense of the property owner. I hold the opinion that housing of some sort should be provided to all.
 
Jaw said:
You're grasping at straws in outrage at a post where I said I wish everyone could have access to temporary sterilization medication.
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I’m not grasping at straws

I’m pointing out hypocrites that attack women and women’s healthcare instead of putting the burden on males


Much less those that don’t step up to their so called Christian beliefs and pro life rhetoric
 
zbhargrove said:
In some cases they can be reversed... they tell you its a bout a 50/50 chance... I had one... was super fun. Would not recommend
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I’m shocked you aren’t in favor of said plan

But are in favor of forcing females to have medical procedures
 
goldfly said:
I’m shocked you aren’t in favor of said plan

But are in favor of forcing females to have medical procedures
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What medical procedure am I forcing a female to have?

If a female gets pregnant and she wasn't raped, it was her choice and she needs to live with that choice. If she was raped, she should be allowed to have an abortion if she chooses... I don't understand what's so hard
 
zbhargrove said:
What? I swear... you are basically thethe on the other end of the spectrum

I'm literally trying to figure out what authority you have to announce when a fetus is a human
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Oh, I’m gonna be honest

That one hurt

But

What part didn’t you understand? It seems you are in favor of this law which has determined that grain of salt with a tail is a human.

And follow me now
Which would mean you have also determined when a human is a human or non human.

Thus, my answer of you you’re self have dared to determine when a human is a human

And makes it funny to ask me “who are you to determine” such a thing
 
goldfly said:
Oh, I’m gonna be honest

That one hurt

But

What part didn’t you understand? It seems you are in favor of this law which has determined that grain of salt with a tail is a human.

And follow me now
Which would mean you have also determined when a human is a human or non human.

Thus, my answer of you you’re self have dared to determine when a human is a human

And makes it funny to ask me “who are you to determine” such a thing
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No I'm humble enough to know that I cannot say when a fetus is a human... you apparently are not
 
zbhargrove said:
What medical procedure am I forcing a female to have?

If a female gets pregnant and she wasn't raped, it was her choice and she needs to live with that choice. If she was raped, she should be allowed to have an abortion if she chooses... I don't understand what's so hard
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That’s certainly a take to say a medical procedure isn’t a medical procedure

But even your opt out isn’t allowed by this law
 
Just for ****s and giggles... at what point does gold consider the living being inside the womb a human?

(this is the part he won't answer)
 
goldfly said:
That’s certainly a take to say a medical procedure isn’t a medical procedure

But even your opt out isn’t allowed by this law
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Well please tell me anywhere where I said I agreed with this law 100%... I'm just refuting your awful takes... I'm not even talking about the law.
 
goldfly said:
I’m not grasping at straws

I’m pointing out hypocrites that attack women and women’s healthcare instead of putting the burden on males


Much less those that don’t step up to their so called Christian beliefs and pro life rhetoric
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Brother, you’re missing the important context where Jaw is imagining a world where this is possible for people to choose to do this, as is already closely approximated by birth control. I don’t think Jaw is advocating we forcefully sterilize people.

Honestly, I’d say Jaw’s hypothetical here is actually quite progressive.
 
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zbhargrove said:
No I'm humble enough to know that I cannot say when a fetus is a human... you apparently are not
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Lol

We are literally talking about a law that has done exactly that




But yes, I’m comfortable in saying a grain of rice with a tail is not a human. Lol
 
goldfly said:
Lol

We are literally talking about a law that has done exactly that




But yes, I’m comfortable in saying a grain of rice with a tail is not a human. Lol
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No you're talking (badly) about the law... I'm talking philosophically because you obviously have some very bizarre takes on the matter.

At 2 grains of rice, is the fetus human?
 
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