Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
A 1.67 WHIP with two homeruns allowed (luckily solo)? That's a Sosa start.
Spring Training Gamethread/Discussion
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A 1.67 WHIP with two homeruns allowed (luckily solo)? That's a Sosa start.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I agree with you that Wood should start over Garcia. But I can understand why the Braves may not want to do that. Especially considering Avilan is the only proven lefty in the pen and so far in spring training the other lefties on the roster have done terrible. It's one of the reasons I couldn't understand why the Braves weren't more aggressive about trying to keep EOF.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
BRAVES WIN! BRAVES WIN! BRAVE WIN! 
Garcia did not allow a runner to reach third (aside from the homers obviously) and one of this walks was intentional and one of the singles was an infield single. I really don't believe that it was as lucky of an outing as its being made out to. Now, I'm not basing my decision on this one start. I just think he has something left in the tank and it wouldn't be the first time the Braves identified a vet that had something left in the tank when nobody thought so.
AUTiger7222
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BOOM!
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Its certainly possible but Sosa was just a guy that reared back and threw. Someone with his stuff should have been a decent pitcher but he had no clue what he was doing. Its kind of the opposite with Garcia and I'll take the skillset that Garcia has over a guy like Sosa any day of the week.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Okay.
If we were the Royals, I might agree, but we are contenders. Garcia has no business starting for a contender.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Those of us arguing against Garcia in the rotation aren't basing it on one start either. We are looking at what Wood did both in the minors and majors last year. Ditto for Hale. Ditto for Garcia. We are looking at Floyd's track record. That's how you make those decisions. Not based on one start. I think we are all agreed there.
Btw, I also think Garcia has something left. But he belongs in the pen. We have better alternatives for the rotation.
We could go around about this all day and you would never be right, but it's ok to give up runs when facing Kershaw bc "no one was on base?"
I just don't think starting Wood in the rotation is our best option because I want him to be in the rotation come October. Hale I think could use another half season in AAA or be broken into the pen here.
Again, it doesn't hurt to go with Garcia. Go start by start even or something where if he has two bad starts in a row or 2 out of 3 then you pull him. But it would be in the Braves best interest to buy some time for Wood early in the season. I have high hopes for Floyd but I don't think we should make plans based on him being in the rotation.
So Garcia didn't pitch a hell of a game? Garcia just dumb lucked his way through 6 innings and giving up just 2 runs against the Dodgers?
11 base runners (4 extra base hits, including 2 home runs) in 6 innings (in an extreme pitchers park). How many runs would be expected to have given up if you are given those stats?
Of course it isn't but he is Freddy Garcia. He isn't Adam Wainwright. Nobody is expecting him to pitch like an Ace. I mean we all love Teheran but he got smacked by the same lineup. The Dodgers were damn good last year and if Hanley didn't get hurt I think they are the world series champs.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Our best option with Wood is to move him to the pen and limit his innings for a month or so when Floyd comes back. That's a better option than giving starts to Garcia.
I just disagree that him starting in April and potentially May based on performance is that big of a deal. Its not like we are going to let him suck out there and keep rolling him out. The hope is that he is pitching well to merit more starts until it makes sense to move Wood into the rotation.
I don't like moving a guy like that mid season. Not sure if there are studies on it but to me it just doesn't seem like a good idea. If someone can prove to me that it doesn't have an impact (understanding that I can't prove it does have an impact) then I would be all on board with you. I'm just skeptical and wouldn't want to do that.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
We should make plans for his being available. And we should have a plan B in case his rehab is not successful, and that can certainly involve Garcia. But our Plan A, our best alternative, is the one I laid out where Wood moves to the pen once Floyd comes back.