The Coronavirus, not the beer

Just from and outside perspective it looks like getting it, and getting the monoclonal antibodies would be the way to go.
 
Tapate50 said:
Just from and outside perspective it looks like getting it, and getting the monoclonal antibodies would be the way to go.
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Natural immunity plus therapeutics is always the right course of action.

But when you watch cable news and see all the Big Pharma commercials you understand how we have gotten to this point.
 
sturg33 said:
Well... it's clearly not a vaccine... it's more of a preventative treatment
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You obviously didn't get the memo that the ministry of english words determined that vaccines do not have the traditional meaning you and I understood.
 
sturg33 said:
Well... it's clearly not a vaccine... it's more of a preventative treatment
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This is a better version of what I wanted to say. Polio, smallpox, mumps, tuberculosis, measles, rubella vaccines basically wiped those diseases out. Flu and Covid vaccines don't seem to have any major impact on whether you get the disease or pass it on to others.
 
Jaw said:
This is a better version of what I wanted to say. Polio, smallpox, mumps, tuberculosis, measles, rubella vaccines basically wiped those diseases out. Flu and Covid vaccines don't seem to have any major impact on whether you get the disease or pass it on to others.
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Alex Berenson rightfully called this experimental gene therapy treatment a therapeutic since the data from Israel came in.

We all understand why Twitter had to ban him....
 
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Exactly.

Its amusing to see an obese person yelling at a healthy person for not being vaccinated.
 
thethe said:
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Exactly.

Its amusing to see an obese person yelling at a healthy person for not being vaccinated.
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That's painting with an awfully wide brush calling obesity and CHD self inflicted. Sometimes that's the case, sometimes it isn't.
 
thethe said:
Most of the time it is. On rare occasions it isn't.
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I would say way more than rare occasions. Suppose you have a single mother working 3 jobs who doesn't have the time or money to make fresh, healthy dinners and so subsists on processed foods and is obese. Is that self-inflicted?

What about all the patients with heart disease caused by a congenital inability to process out cholesterol giving them way higher cholesterol than their diet would suggest? That's a fairly common issue.

What about the large number of diabetics that develop heart disease?

What about people who use food as a coping mechanism due to some horrific childhood trauma? Is that self-inflicted?

Don't be so quick to condemn people as choosing obesity or heart disease. Even cases you would absolutely call self-inflicted are actually the result of ignorance and people developing bad habits as children. If people are inflicting it on themselves and so burdening the system, shouldn't we be trying to push for prevention? Shouldn't we want to educate people and try to make healthy food as widely available as possible?
 
striker42 said:
I would say way more than rare occasions. Suppose you have a single mother working 3 jobs who doesn't have the time or money to make fresh, healthy dinners and so subsists on processed foods and is obese. Is that self-inflicted?

What about all the patients with heart disease caused by a congenital inability to process out cholesterol giving them way higher cholesterol than their diet would suggest? That's a fairly common issue.

What about the large number of diabetics that develop heart disease?

What about people who use food as a coping mechanism due to some horrific childhood trauma? Is that self-inflicted?

Don't be so quick to condemn people as choosing obesity or heart disease. Even cases you would absolutely call self-inflicted are actually the result of ignorance and people developing bad habits as children. If people are inflicting it on themselves and so burdening the system, shouldn't we be trying to push for prevention? Shouldn't we want to educate people and try to make healthy food as widely available as possible?
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Lets just have an understanding that no genetic issues or birth issues are examples of people being lazy.

All others are examples of poor health and laziness. Its easy to get some cardio exercise in. Completely free.
 
And just to be clear. I don't want separate treatment for obese people. I just want to follow the same rules set forth during COVID. Lets attack real drains on the healthcare system if that is the priority now.
 
thethe said:
And just to be clear. I don't want separate treatment for obese people. I just want to follow the same rules set forth during COVID. Lets attack real drains on the healthcare system if that is the priority now.
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I think the attacks on people for not getting the vaccine are absolutely wrong. They're not second class citizens and should be treated as such. I think we need more compassion in a lot of our dealings, especially where healthcare is concerned.

I'm not going to write off someone's obesity as just them being lazy when I don't know what's going on with them. I'm also not going to write off someone not getting the vaccine as them being uncaring or a drain on society when I don't know what's going on with them either. All I can do is support people having access to the information and resources they need to make good choices for their health.
 
Jaw said:
I'm as involved in the church as much as anyone who isn't paid staff. No disrespect to him, but I've never heard of this guy.
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I have no idea who that is. But let's be real. Most televangelists are in it for the money and themselves. May be off base about Lamb.
 
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