Terdoslavich

Many "top positional prospects" won't even reach the majors, much less be a solid contributor, even as a bench player. All of those players mentioned also have the capability of being regulars, albeit some not with the Braves.

But thanks for the snarky comment. Now go back to rooting for Wonderdouche and your Nationals.

Yes, many prospects won't make the majors. That is beside the point and im confused why it would be mentioned. All 4 have the ability to at least wear a uniform, great. But, prospects that project as bench players don't typically get much hype, do they?
 
Yes, many prospects won't make the majors. That is beside the point and im confused why it would be mentioned. All 4 have the ability to at least wear a uniform, great. But, prospects that project as bench players don't typically get much hype, do they?

But why does he project as a bench player?
 
But why does he project as a bench player?

His lack of a defensive position. The fact that to play 1B or corner OF (except for the Braves) you have to produce some big numbers. He has in a short time in AAA at an age of 24, but could he come up and produce enough offensively to overcome his defense and play everyday in the majors? Also, his inability to hit lefties could reduce his role.
 
His lack of a defensive position. The fact that to play 1B or corner OF (except for the Braves) you have to produce some big numbers. He has in a short time in AAA at an age of 24, but could he come up and produce enough offensively to overcome his defense and play everyday in the majors? Also, his inability to hit lefties could reduce his role.

That last part is interesting. Terdoslavich's history has been that he has hit better from the right side. This is the first year he's hit better from the left side. So I'm not ready to conclude he is better from one side or the other.
 
That last part is interesting. Terdoslavich's history has been that he has hit better from the right side. This is the first year he's hit better from the left side. So I'm not ready to conclude he is better from one side or the other.

2010- .832, .592
2011- .874 ,.855
2012- .705, .755
2013- .959, .676
 
You're right. Terdoslavich to me wasn't much of a prospect until recently. He was always a little old for his level, limited defensively, no speed.

What changed? The main thing that did was the doubles turned into home runs. So suddenly you have a guy who combines a good approach and good contact skills with some significant power. That's an interesting prospect. A guy with an OPS of about .800 and a little old for his league now is a guy with an OPS of .900 plus who is a little old for his league. The difference is not insignificant. So I've upgraded my assessment. Part of the upgrade is also based on what my eyes tell me from seeing him in spring training and the past few games. I see a guy who has a great approach at the plate (even while noting he has to improve against major league caliber breaking balls) and also someone who is decent in the field. He'll never be a gold glover, but he is not bad out there. Having changed my assessment, I started this thread to see what other people thought. I certainly was not looking for knee-jerk reactions. I wanted to see what other people who closely follow our farm system thought.

THis is the same thing we heard about Gattis. He was a horrible defensive catcher and then all of a sudden in Spring Training he shows up and is a good major league catcher. I think the same can be said for Terdo. He is a relatively athletic guy. He moves well in the outfield from what i have seen and similar to you I am a big fan of his approach at the plate. He will have his ups and downs early but I think over hte long run he will be a productive major leaguer.
 
2010- .832, .592
2011- .874 ,.855
2012- .705, .755
2013- .959, .676

I stand corrected. I must have been remembering just the 2012 numbers.

In any event, his splits have never been as pronounced as they are this year. I suspect it is a sample size thing more than anything else and would expect them to stabilize to something closer to what they were in 2011-2012.
 
I stand corrected. I must have been remembering just the 2012 numbers.

In any event, his splits have never been as pronounced as they are this year. I suspect it is a sample size thing more than anything else and would expect them to stabilize to something closer to what they were in 2011-2012.

Either way, most of his AB's will come as a left handed hitter so if he can get anywhere from a 720-680 OPS as a right handed hitter and kill it from the left side (
 
THis is the same thing we heard about Gattis. He was a horrible defensive catcher and then all of a sudden in Spring Training he shows up and is a good major league catcher. I think the same can be said for Terdo. He is a relatively athletic guy. He moves well in the outfield from what i have seen and similar to you I am a big fan of his approach at the plate. He will have his ups and downs early but I think over hte long run he will be a productive major leaguer.

Is he "athletic" enough to play CF? Because that's what we need. Otherwise he's just trade bait.
 
Is he "athletic" enough to play CF? Because that's what we need. Otherwise he's just trade bait.

We have some good players who can play center in the system. Schafer in the major. Cunningham in AAA. Lipka, Wren, Lien in the lower levels. We have a couple middle infielders whose future might ultimately be in center (Peraza and Pastornicky).

But I'm not ready to write off BJ. He's a much better player than what he's shown so far.
 
Is he "athletic" enough to play CF? Because that's what we need. Otherwise he's just trade bait.

No but Heyward is. Terdo will get the Gattis treatment in 2014 IMO. And then they will see what they are going to do with him long term. I don't see why anyone would think he won't be able to hit. He has done nothing but hit in the minor leagues.
 
Terdo's defensive liabilities hamper his trade value but for us, him being a switch hitter and semi-capable of subbing at first, and us always looking for bench help, I see no reason considering his cost, that he doesnt hang around as a PH or 4th OFer.

Hard to have a guy that can't play CF as the 4th OF. What the Braves have done this season in carrying 5 OF's is very rare and really hampers a team's bench without a Willie Bloomquist, Omar Infante type swing guy that can play middle infield and CF.
 
Yes, many prospects won't make the majors. That is beside the point and im confused why it would be mentioned. All 4 have the ability to at least wear a uniform, great. But, prospects that project as bench players don't typically get much hype, do they?

Hence the reason why I question the "experts" who said the Braves were barren of positional prospects. I think it's quite obvious the projection on at least a couple of these guys was a little low.
 
Any prospect list is going to have a couple guys too low and a couple guys to high in hindsight.
 
except one done by thethe.

Hey, what prospects have I been off on in the last 5 years?

We all love to laugh at my foolish Jeff Francouer proclimation but I was young, didn't realize how important statitical analysis was in baseball, and drank the kool-aid from Bill.
 
Hey, what prospects have I been off on in the last 5 years?

We all love to laugh at my foolish Jeff Francouer proclimation but I was young, didn't realize how important statitical analysis was in baseball, and drank the kool-aid from Bill.

EW
 
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