Minor league thread

msstate7 said:
Seems odd to me. Kwon Alexander tore his Achilles for the 2nd time in December 2020. He played in game 1 for the saints in September of 2021, and he played the entire season. This is a freaking NFL LB... you telling me we have to limit soroka in 2023 also? Damn, baseball players are wieners
Click to expand...

non QBs are essentially treated as replaceable.

Soroka has two more years of control after this one and we might want him longer term. You've seen how careful they've been with Acuna.

I still say best case scenario is Soroka comes in as the Strider role to throw a couple of innings every couple of days. Is very good. Stays healthy. Then has a healthy offseason to be in the rotation next year.
 
zbhargrove said:
Don’t see how you put Mezquita above Malloy/Grissom… but I love me some Mezquita
Click to expand...

Malloy is substantially older without as much room for growth - there have always been questions about whether Grissom will develop power. I downgrade Malloy slightly since it already appears he's going to be a 1B/DH type unless he can shift to LF - there doesn't appear to be much competition at 3B in Rome, and his defense apparently isn't good enough for them to leave him on the left side to see if there's a chance it improves.

Just my personal rankings - I've yet to actually see Mezquita play, so there's plenty of reason to question that particularly given the level of competition.
 
Russ2dollas said:
non QBs are essentially treated as replaceable.

Soroka has two more years of control after this one and we might want him longer term. You've seen how careful they've been with Acuna.

I still say best case scenario is Soroka comes in as the Strider role to throw a couple of innings every couple of days. Is very good. Stays healthy. Then has a healthy offseason to be in the rotation next year.
Click to expand...

Joe burrow was injured on 11-22, and he played game 1 last year.



Even the qbs in football aren't treated with such kid gloves. And that's a franchise qb. He's way more valuable to the bengals than soroka is to braves.

Anyway, I don't even doubt soroka will babied bc baseball guys always are in an essentially non-contact sport

ETA... not trying to knock baseball. Braves baseball is my absolute favorite sport to watch. Now just a random MLB game would be behind state sports and saints
 
Last edited:
Apparently Uncle A-Rod hasn't shared any insight about how to dance around the PED rules with Dunand - cut loose to make room for Mike Ford.

Not exactly sure why another 1B/DH was needed in Gwinnett.
 
clvclv said:
Apparently Uncle A-Rod hasn't shared any insight about how to dance around the PED rules with Dunand - cut loose to make room for Mike Ford.

Not exactly sure why another 1B/DH was needed in Gwinnett.
Click to expand...

Odd.

I'm still trying to figure out why Robertson is hitting leadoff. Are the braves seeing if he can be dansby's replacement next year? Leadoff could be meaningless, but it does seem that's where they want their best (loose usage considering Gwinnett's roster) prospect
 
zbhargrove said:
Well thus far his power is only a theory and yet to be a reality at any level... he's basically Jordan Schafer (although Jordan actually showed out quite a bit more in the minors)... I'm expecting nothing from Waters but I'll be pleasantly surprised if he has any use.
Click to expand...

11 homers last year in 450 at bats. Likely to surpass that again this year. I don't know what his EV has been the last 2 years, but in 2019 he was at ~89, which is roughly where Swanson has been at in recent years. That's pretty decent pop if he maintains that.

Schafer did not show out more in the minors, imo. And it's impossible to know how much Schafer's stats were aided by PEDs.
 
Russ2dollas said:
non QBs are essentially treated as replaceable.

Soroka has two more years of control after this one and we might want him longer term. You've seen how careful they've been with Acuna.

I still say best case scenario is Soroka comes in as the Strider role to throw a couple of innings every couple of days. Is very good. Stays healthy. Then has a healthy offseason to be in the rotation next year.
Click to expand...

Soroka is still an excellent extension candidate. He has so little mileage on the arm, and has so much risk to his overall career, that the Braves could hit big on a relatively cheap $50M lottery ticket for several years.
 
msstate7 said:
Odd.

I'm still trying to figure out why Robertson is hitting leadoff. Are the braves seeing if he can be dansby's replacement next year? Leadoff could be meaningless, but it does seem that's where they want their best (loose usage considering Gwinnett's roster) prospect
Click to expand...

I mean, Shewmake is a better prospect than Robertson. Which speaks to the dearth of quality prospects in Gwinnett more than anything; but still.
 
Enscheff said:
Soroka is still an excellent extension candidate. He has so little mileage on the arm, and has so much risk to his overall career, that the Braves could hit big on a relatively cheap $50M lottery ticket for several years.
Click to expand...

100% agreed. Even if Soroka get 12 starts the rest of the year and is excellent, I think he’s going to be glad to put pen to paper this off-season and get guaranteed life changing money

I would be so paranoid getting hurt again I wonder if all the media appearances he’s done (podcasts, Braves broadcasts, etc.) is a conscious choice of preparing a backup plan if this recovery doesn’t go well.
 
thethe said:
With Harris up and Grissom not lighting it up the farm is very depressing right now.
Click to expand...

Grisson's sporting a career-low .282 BABIP, so I'm hoping part of his issues are luck based. Hard to evaluate deeper without more robust batted-ball metrics from the minors.

Also sucks that Jesse Franklin is done for the season. I still think he's an interesting OF bat, with his power and solid defense. And I'm rooting for the entirety of the 2020 draft to make it to the majors. Would be a fun historical asterisk.
 
jpx7 said:
Grisson's sporting a career-low .282 BABIP, so I'm hoping part of his issues are luck based. Hard to evaluate deeper without more robust batted-ball metrics from the minors.

Also sucks that Jesse Franklin is done for the season. I still think he's an interesting OF bat, with his power and solid defense. And I'm rooting for the entirety of the 2020 draft to make it to the majors. Would be a fun historical asterisk.
Click to expand...

now I have to go revisit that draft...
 
clvclv said:
Malloy is substantially older without as much room for growth - there have always been questions about whether Grissom will develop power. I downgrade Malloy slightly since it already appears he's going to be a 1B/DH type unless he can shift to LF - there doesn't appear to be much competition at 3B in Rome, and his defense apparently isn't good enough for them to leave him on the left side to see if there's a chance it improves.

Just my personal rankings - I've yet to actually see Mezquita play, so there's plenty of reason to question that particularly given the level of competition.
Click to expand...

I get that Malloy is older... but 22 in A+ his second year in pro ball is not terrible. The exciting thing about Malloy is his 13.5% walk rate (his draft scouting report really talked up his eye) and manageable k-rate. I look at his stats and I see plenty of room for growth and he was one of the guys I was highest on in the draft last year.
 
Carp said:
11 homers last year in 450 at bats. Likely to surpass that again this year. I don't know what his EV has been the last 2 years, but in 2019 he was at ~89, which is roughly where Swanson has been at in recent years. That's pretty decent pop if he maintains that.

Schafer did not show out more in the minors, imo. And it's impossible to know how much Schafer's stats were aided by PEDs.
Click to expand...

11 homers in 450 at-bats is what you consider good power? You're grasping at straws with Waters... I hope I'm wrong about him, but nothing about his profile suggests optimism.
 
zbhargrove said:
I get that Malloy is older... but 22 in A+ his second year in pro ball is not terrible. The exciting thing about Malloy is his 13.5% walk rate (his draft scouting report really talked up his eye) and manageable k-rate. I look at his stats and I see plenty of room for growth and he was one of the guys I was highest on in the draft last year.
Click to expand...

Would be nice if he could stick at 3B, or even slide “up” the spectrum to 2B. If he’s a 1B/cOF/DH-type, it’s tougher to live with his seeming lack of power.
 
zbhargrove said:
11 homers in 450 at-bats is what you consider good power? You're grasping at straws with Waters... I hope I'm wrong about him, but nothing about his profile suggests optimism.
Click to expand...

Hardly. Maybe your opinion of good power is different, but I consider anyone projected to have a SLG in the. 400-.450 range as having pretty good power. I'm not claiming he's gonna be Riley out there. But I would consider Swanson as having good power.
 
zbhargrove said:
11 homers in 450 at-bats is what you consider good power? You're grasping at straws with Waters... I hope I'm wrong about him, but nothing about his profile suggests optimism.
Click to expand...

His exit velos and barrel numbers appeal to people who hold optimism.

If you ignore those- yeah I see your point
 
Tapate50 said:
His exit velos and barrel numbers appeal to people who hold optimism.

If you ignore those- yeah I see your point
Click to expand...

Yeah I get it... he's tooled out... he's a crazy good athlete so I'm sure when he makes contact its usually pretty hard contact. However, he has shown little to no growth and doesn't make enough contact and strikes out an absurd amount. The probability he becomes anything more than a 4th or 5th OFer is very low.
 
Carp said:
Hardly. Maybe your opinion of good power is different, but I consider anyone projected to have a SLG in the. 400-.450 range as having pretty good power. I'm not claiming he's gonna be Riley out there. But I would consider Swanson as having good power.
Click to expand...

Dansby never struck out anywhere close to 30% of the time in the minors, either...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top