The Coronavirus, not the beer
- Thread starter Runnin
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People also love to glance over the fact that when the lights weren't on and he gave professional advice to a colleague he advised her that masks were pointless.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
There's 4 people I work with who aren't vaccinated and got COVID this year. One got it twice.
Maybe the reason the majority of people who get COVID are because they're vaccinated, are because the majority of people in the USA have some form of vaccination and the virus is more contagious than ever.
80% of the population has at least one vaccination so of course they're going to represent more cases
https://stats.web.health.state.mn.u...count=n&:showVizHome=n&:origin=viz_share_link
sturg33
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It's actually because.after the winter of death there are no unvaccinated people still alive
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Right
So it's like when someone provides facts that counter your argument you just make a non-sequitur. Got it.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I mean we could dive into the numbers. i don't think it matters that much to the discussion as the thread is just a giant circle jerk for peopel who don't want to have honest discussions.
sturg33
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I'm following the science
This was once a pandemic of the unvaccinated... and those people were promised a winter of death and despair
the science wasnt wrong was it?
sturg33
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with the benefit of hindsight... do you think maybe just maybe the covid skeptics were right about a few things?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
How did Brazil do? That's what the covid skeptics wanted.
Maybe perhaps things can evolve. Like now with fairly reliable treatments things change.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
How do those numbers look compared to 2020?
Explain why this matters?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Because it's more relevant in a pandemic world than 2015-2019.
Here's where that person snagged the infographic from
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Excess_mortality_-_statistics
Some highlights
Following a peak of 26.5 % in November 2021, in June 2022 excess mortality in the EU decreased slightly compared to the previous month, to 6.2 %.
Between March 2020 and June 2022, the EU recorded four distinct waves of excess mortality, with peaks in April 2020 (25.2 %), November 2020 (40 %, the highest), April 2021 (20.9 %) and November 2021 (26.5 %).
FWIW I expect June 2020 to be lower as that was peak masking/social distancing/lcokdown era. After the very rough April 2020 most of Europe took the Pandemic very serious
But the point is, you're comparing a outbreak world to a post outbreak world.