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Yeah i just dont get including the Brewers into this when they sent one player. Surely we could have made something work if the A's didnt want Bill.

Surely the A’s would value Grissom as much or more than Ruiz. A Grissom and Piña swap for Murphy would’ve been incredible.
 
Surely the A’s would value Grissom as much or more than Ruiz. A Grissom and Piña swap for Murphy would’ve been incredible.

Lol then we’d all but certainly be signing a ss. Not having a sure ss on the roster probably made that move not possible.
 
Lol then we’d all but certainly be signing a ss. Not having a sure ss on the roster probably made that move not possible.

Yeah Grissom isnt getting moved until there's some clarity at SS going forward.
 
As I said I'm not a huge fan of the trade given existing holes, but the one point I'm probably not giving enough thought to is that TD is not getting any younger and has been injury prone. If the view is simply Contreras is not a guy we see as an every day catcher, I can at least understand that banking on TD to be healthy and not start to decline is probably not the safest bet.

Can give this an incomplete for now - but we can't go into the year with Arcia / Grissom at short, Rosario in left and a DH of Ozuna.
 
As I said I'm not a huge fan of the trade given existing holes, but the one point I'm probably not giving enough thought to is that TD is not getting any younger and has been injury prone. If the view is simply Contreras is not a guy we see as an every day catcher, I can at least understand that banking on TD to be healthy and not start to decline is probably not the safest bet.

Can give this an incomplete for now - but we can't go into the year with Arcia / Grissom at short, Rosario in left and a DH of Ozuna.

Agreed. But TDA getting older and being injury-prone is another reason not to trade two catchers in a deal that you probably only needed to give up one and make it work without involving a third team.
 
Yeah i just dont get including the Brewers into this when they sent one player. Surely we could have made something work if the A's didnt want Bill.

It does seem really odd. Ruiz did steal 85 bases between AA and AAA last season, but you can't steal first. He has played both IF and OF. Maybe they see him as the next Tony Kemp, which isn't worth a whole lot and I'm more than half kidding.
 
Agreed. But TDA getting older and being injury-prone is another reason not to trade two catchers in a deal that you probably only needed to give up one and make it work without involving a third team.

Pina was a FA after next year and they didn’t see WC as a full time C. If TDA has a down year or is injured a lot I could see them declining his option. This is insurance at its finest and the best C that we could get to be the long term guy here. AA is looking years down the road with this trade.
 
Pina was a FA after next year and they didn’t see WC as a full time C. If TDA has a down year or is injured a lot I could see them declining his option. This is insurance at its finest and the best C that we could get to be the long term guy here. AA is looking years down the road with this trade.

What I'm saying is we could have saved Contreras if Oakland didn't want him. It's hard to believe Ruiz was the hangup in this to have to get Milwaukee involved. Or Pina for that matter. Are there no free agent, veteran, backup catchers left? Bottom line is, Atlanta could have still had TDA and Pina along with Murphy or TDA and Contreras along with Murphy and turned Contreras or TDA into something else to go along with Murphy.
 
The thing is the Braves gave up 5 players to only get Murphy. I honestly don't understand this trade.

Quality over quantity.

Contreras didn’t really fit as our future catcher.
TDA is old.
Murphy is 28 and a stud.
Other pieces were used to necessitate the trade.

The deal was good from a positional upgrade standpoint. However, resources weren’t maximized to fill our other holes at ss and lf.
 
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