Braves Trade Deadline Rumors

nsacpi said:
From mlbtraderumors.com

The Braves' priority is to add a left-handed reliever, writes MLB.com's Mark Bowman, with James Russell of the Cubs, Mike Gonzalez of the Brewers, and Wesley Wright of the Astros on their wish list. The Braves are more interested in Russell and Gonzalez, he adds.

The Braves' need for a southpaw reliever has increased with the plan to put Alex Wood in the starting rotation, possibly swapping roles with right-hander Kris Medlen. That would leave Luis Avilan as the only lefty in the Braves' pen, with Eric O'Flaherty and Jonny Venters both out for the season due to Tommy John surgery.

The Braves also seek a backup infielder to fill the void after the loss of Ramiro Pena to season-ending surgery; they'd prefer a left-handed hitter with more offense than Paul Janish.
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How about James Russell, and Luis Valbuena from the Cubs. It fills both needs.
 
tvsportscaster said:
How about James Russell, and Luis Valbuena from the Cubs. It fills both needs.
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Valbuena isn't a suffice replacement for Pena at short, IMO. He's strong defensively at third, but he's not someone you want filling in at short for Simmons. I'm also not sold on his bat to be honest. So while an upgrade to Janish with the bat, he's a downgrade with the glove at short. Which matters more for a team that has bad defenders starting at second and third.

However, I am sure he'd be a major upgrade at third defensively. I really like his defense at third base (if he only hit better and was a better option at short).
 
Braves1976 said:
Valbuena isn't a suffice replacement for Pena at short, IMO. He's strong defensively at third, but he's not someone you want filling in at short for Simmons. I'm also not sold on his bat to be honest. So while an upgrade to Janish with the bat, he's a downgrade with the glove at short. Which matters more for a team that has bad defenders starting at second and third.

However, I am sure he'd be a major upgrade at third defensively. I really like his defense at third base (if he only hit better and was a better option at short).
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You can live with the sub-par defense at short if it is only for a game or two. If Simmons were injured and had to be placed on the DL, you could just recall Janish to take his spot (I'm assuming Janish still has options)
 
Bj1133 said:
You can live with the sub-par defense at short if it is only for a game or two. If Simmons were injured and had to be placed on the DL, you could just recall Janish to take his spot (I'm assuming Janish still has options)
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No thanks, I am not supporting downgrading further defensively (esp. since I am not even sold on Valbuena's bat). Besides, you can make that kind of argument for keeping Pastornicky over Janish too (and I'm more sold on Pastornicky's bat than I am Valbuena's). However, it is hard to get worse than Pastornicky at short. Bottom line, I want an actual shortstop backing up short (not a third baseman than can play it a game or two).

Note, if we had better defenders at second and third I'd look at it different. Also, I am pretty sure Janish is out of options but he'd likely clear waivers either way.
 
BRule said:
Health issues and had an issue with his eyes.

As far as Headley goes, are people just going to pretend like his injury wasn't a big deal? In July he's hitting 271 with a 817 OPS...he's going to be fine, it takes time to come back from a major injury and find your swing again.
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And what do you consider "going to be fine"? Before he broke out for 31 HR at age 28, his previous 3 years were 12, 11 and 4 (injury shortened). Too many question marks to give up something very valuable for him.
 
Braves1976 said:
No thanks, I am not supporting downgrading further defensively (esp. since I am not even sold on Valbuena's bat). Besides, you can make that kind of argument for keeping Pastornicky over Janish too (and I'm more sold on Pastornicky's bat than I am Valbuena's). However, it is hard to get worse than Pastornicky at short. Bottom line, I want an actual shortstop backing up short (not a third baseman than can play it a game or two).

Note, if we had better defenders at second and third I'd look at it different. Also, I am pretty sure Janish is out of options but he'd likely clear waivers either way.
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I don't believe Janish is out of options. I think he still had this year left where he can be moved up and down with no issues.
 
skidlee said:
I don't believe Janish is out of options. I think he still had this year left where he can be moved up and down with no issues.
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I was just going by a report I read before the season that stated that he'd have to pass through waivers. Personally, I don't see it as a concern either way. Luis Cruz was passed by every team before the Yankees signed him (and he's better than Janish).
 
Janish was already down in the minor leagues once this year, and the Braves can send him down as many times as they want for the rest of the year. Options are seasons, not separate acts.
 
tlroom112 said:
And what do you consider "going to be fine"? Before he broke out for 31 HR at age 28, his previous 3 years were 12, 11 and 4 (injury shortened). Too many question marks to give up something very valuable for him.
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270-275 hitter, 20-25 HRs, 15-20 steals with a 820-840 OPS, while playing gold glove D at 3b
 
While I would not mind Headly I don't think Wren should be focused on getting him over getting a LOOGY and a decent bench piece. I would even say upgrade the rotation before worrying about 3B. Now with that said and deal built around Medlen for Headly should be considered if its an option. I would not add much more then that because while Headly is a nice player he is numbers suggest he is flawed, just like Medlen.
 
Yeah, I don't know why everybody is so keen on getting rid of Chris Johnson at 3B. That position is not anywhere close to being a problem right now. Focus on getting a lefty reliever, which I think will probably wind up being Mike Gonzalez and add that bench piece and go to war from there.
 
tvsportscaster said:
Yeah, I don't know why everybody is so keen on getting rid of Chris Johnson at 3B. That position is not anywhere close to being a problem right now. Focus on getting a lefty reliever, which I think will probably wind up being Mike Gonzalez and add that bench piece and go to war from there.
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It's only a problem because he is an atrocious defender. Nothing to do with his bat.
 
BRule said:
270-275 hitter, 20-25 HRs, 15-20 steals with a 820-840 OPS, while playing gold glove D at 3b
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"Gold Glove defense"?

You're kidding, right? And, yeah, I know he won it last year, but it was a year when his Dwar was 0.0 and his defensive runs saved was a -3. As a comparison, Chipper at age 40 had a Dwar of 0.2 and saved 4 runs defensively.

He was about as deserving of a GG as was Rafael Palmeiro in 1999, when Raffy played a grand total of 28 games at 1B.
 
BRule said:
Health issues and had an issue with his eyes.

As far as Headley goes, are people just going to pretend like his injury wasn't a big deal? In July he's hitting 271 with a 817 OPS...he's going to be fine, it takes time to come back from a major injury and find your swing again.
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And the July version of Chris Johnson is hitting .358/.370/.491. Please explain the upgrade with an older, more expensive player.
 
Headley's 8 DRS so far this year ranks third in MLB among third basemen behind only Machado and Arenado. Machado is clearly the best at the position in MLB. But Headley is still great and only Arenado has been better in the NL so far this year.
 
I'd like to use this forum to say that I have no faith in Frank Wren not to make a terrible trade. Although I've come to expect it's about that time for his annual future star pitcher giveaway for two months of garbage.
 
chipchildress said:
I'd like to use this forum to say that I have no faith in Frank Wren not to make a terrible trade. Although I've come to expect it's about that time for his annual future star pitcher giveaway for two months of garbage.
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I might be late to the party on this but Wren makes pretty decent trades. He doesn't make good decisions on free agents.
 
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