Heyward
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Been saying Dodgers the whole time. I think he wants to stay on the West Coast as well, he's a lowkey guy as well.
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Been saying Dodgers the whole time. I think he wants to stay on the West Coast as well, he's a lowkey guy as well.
UNCBlue012
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I'd also be really shocked if it weren't the Dodgers. He seems to legitimately like playing for the Angels, but they're just rancid. The Dodgers are a great organization in an area he clearly loves.
UNCBlue012
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The Angels know they need to make the playoffs to have a shot to keep him. I'm guessing, unless they're out of contention by then, they'll spend big at the Trade Deadline to get to the offseason.
Hudson2
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I completely forgot about the Mets. With the age of Scherzer and Verlander and how both are on short term deals and having health issues I’d put them ahead of the Dodgers and probably 1st on the list bc they’ll have more than enough money and Cohen is super motivated.
Yes - all of these reasons, and I actually think Cohen is a maniac who will back up the Brinks truck and make SO tell him no. One interesting piece I read on a Mets site stated that In Japanese culture a superstar player isn’t inclined to join a team with another star player already on board. Reason is respect -they don’t want to take away from the other’s spotlight. The author was saying this way of thinking could be detrimental to SO deal.
bravesfanMatt
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The Mets will still have a 270 million payroll at the end of the season with holes that need to be filed. Not saying they won't throw money at ShowHey, but they will need to address a lot more after that.
It is crazy how good of a position the Braves are in. They will have a 166 million payroll at the end of this year and will only need a few holes to fill. We have some pitching that is growing in the Minors as well.. This run should last another 5 years most likely.
I don’t know about five years - think about it this way - we don’t need to really bring up a prospect for five years- other than pitching. And we don’t need to make a bunch of farm clearing trades either. That’s a healthy amount of time to rebuild a very powerful farm while competing for WS. Not saying we are gonna have another load of Acunas and Ozzies and Rileys ready to go in five years… but we might 
This is the beauty of having the whole team locked up for the whole run.
This is the beauty of having the whole team locked up for the whole run.
UNCBlue012
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The Mets may have an extra hat in the ring though since he's an elite pitcher and position player, two things they will most definitely need. Looking at it as a "two birds, one stone" lens seems very Cohen.
Heyward
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Some of this is with team options, so Braves could have some money to spend this winter. We can decline team options on Rosario, Morton, Yates for about 35+ mil in savings. Assuming we pickup TDA's and McHugh's for 8M and 6M. We do have quite a bit of guys with arb (Wright Arb1, Hilliard Arb1, Soroka/Fried Arb 4 (S2), Ian Anderson Arb 1, Minter Arb 4, Nick Anderson Arb 2, Luetge Arb 3.
Biggest holes look like BP depth, LF, and maybe SP depending on how Soroka does, and if Elder can prove he's capable of being a solid backend guy or not.
Our luxury tax salary is 154, just current payroll is 166, so we could have some room to play.
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bravesfanforlife88
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The interesting thing is that AA has been in the running for TOR starter the past 2 offseasons....2 years ago was Verlander before he went back to Houston, and the interpretation MLBNetwork Radio said it was deGrom this offseason. AA said if it is the right player, they will go past that $21-22m area, but at the end of the day they'd still need room to fill the whole roster....
That being the case, the only player that would fill that bill IMO is Ohtani. Being an elite pitcher and hitter, it would vastly improve the team going forward.
Now i'm not saying AA will even text his agent, but if he doesn't get an offer in that ballpark, I don't know who he would.
Hudson2
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Ohtani will be the first 50 million per year player imo. Verlander and Scherzer wont factor into his thinking on payroll bc they’ll both be gone after next year anyways. It may come down to location for him or where he sees the best long term spot he can win at. I don’t buy into the West Coast stuff. He wants to win bad you could see it in the WBC. If any team offered him the SS spot when he wasn’t pitching they’d win the bidding. He wants to play a position bad.
Ohtani will generate so much money that it doesn't matter.
bravesfanMatt
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I am not sure... he could, but I am with you on this. I like the Tampa model better than I do the Mets approach. Developing and restocking and not paying huge for big time free agents seems to work pretty well.
chop2chip
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We have no reason to complain based on how amazing Murphy has been, but I wanted to highlight how awesome Willy has been with the Brewers… defensively.
His strike rate is 53.5% aka framing (93rd percentile)
3 blocks above average
He’s 1 for 3 throwing runners out.
This could all be SSS shenanigans, but it’s very encouraging. WC seems like an awesome kid and I’m happy he ended up in a good organization that’s going to try to develop him as a catcher. If he ended up in that garbage fire in Oakland, I wouldn’t like his chances.
His strike rate is 53.5% aka framing (93rd percentile)
3 blocks above average
He’s 1 for 3 throwing runners out.
This could all be SSS shenanigans, but it’s very encouraging. WC seems like an awesome kid and I’m happy he ended up in a good organization that’s going to try to develop him as a catcher. If he ended up in that garbage fire in Oakland, I wouldn’t like his chances.
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bravesfanMatt
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That was the most frustrating thing about not liking the trade. It wasn't anything to do with Murphy. I am thrilled we have him.. it was that I really liked WC as a player and felt it wasn't needed at the time.. But what done is done and Murphy has us all excited about this team.. so not worth complaining about it.