2024 Field

[sturg33]

I told you many times why I am now leery of RDS so not sure why you’d ask me this question yet again. In my example NEW information came up or information I wasn’t aware of came to my attention. In your flip flops NO NEW information has been presented. You just changed your mind because you’re a fraud…or stupid. You haven’t answered that one yet either.

No you didn't answer the question actually.

The question was, before you were instructed to turn on RDS, you were saying Trump should step aside and RDS is the guy. Were you a uniparty force trying to take down MAGA or did you believe you were supporting an upgrade for MAGA?

 

[thethe]

No you didn't answer the question actually.

The question was, before you were instructed to turn on RDS, you were saying Trump should step aside and RDS is the guy. Were you a uniparty force trying to take down MAGA or did you believe you were supporting an upgrade for MAGA?

Ok - So this is an actual different question.

At the time I didn't think that Trump for his own good should have ran after what he dealt with and what was on the horizon. At the time I thought we had a nice bench, STARTING WITH DESANTIS, to take the torch. Then I learned more about his war hawk tendencies (From one of your favorites Amash) - Then he completely did a heel turn on his positions on Ukraine within 48 hours (evidence he will be a slave to his donors) - And then it was obvious he got a pay off by a group of people that want to see Trump in the ground.

And as you have noticed I've maintained my position that Desantis was a good Gov and that I hope there is a reconcilation between the two because I want the plan of him serving 8 years as president to still happen. Unfortunately, the establishment has potentially destroyed RDS's career and thats a shame.

 

[thethe]

Oh I thought this was pretty obvious.

He's being sued into oblivion. And more are coming.

Worse yet, his lawyers keep quitting or getting fired, so he has to pay way more money for the new lawyers to get up to speed on everything.

Worse Worse yet, he's also paying the legal fees of his staff like Jason Miller's child support case.

The $250M he raised for election integrity hasn't done a thing for election integrity. All the money he is raising from grandma isn't doing a thing to beat Biden.

He can't win

Ok - So are these lawsuits valid and in the spirit of true law?

If Trump didn't have personal funds would it be ok to spend the campaign funds on obvoius BS lawsuits designed to ensure Trump can't run for president and loses?

 

[sturg33]

Ok - So this is an actual different question.

At the time I didn't think that Trump for his own good should have ran after what he dealt with and what was on the horizon. At the time I thought we had a nice bench, STARTING WITH DESANTIS, to take the torch. Then I learned more about his war hawk tendencies (From one of your favorites Amash) - Then he completely did a heel turn on his positions on Ukraine within 48 hours (evidence he will be a slave to his donors) - And then it was obvious he got a pay off by a group of people that want to see Trump in the ground.

And as you have noticed I've maintained my position that Desantis was a good Gov and that I hope there is a reconcilation between the two because I want the plan of him serving 8 years as president to still happen. Unfortunately, the establishment has potentially destroyed RDS's career and thats a shame.

So maybe it should occur to you and cerno then, that people like sturg33 who support RDS are not "uniparty forces trying to take down MAGA" but instead desperately pushing for what we believe is a major upgrade.

You are free to disagree that it's a major upgrade... but there is no conspiracy here. In my and many others opinion, he's simply a vastly better candidate who is much more likely to win and much more likely to achieve the policies I support

 

[thethe]

So maybe it should occur to you and cerno then, that people like sturg33 who support RDS are not "uniparty forces trying to take down MAGA" but instead desperately pushing for what we believe is a major upgrade.

You are free to disagree that it's a major upgrade... but there is no conspiracy here. In my and many others opinion, he's simply a vastly better candidate who is much more likely to win and much more likely to achieve the policies I support

Who said RDS was one of them or his supporters are? Have I called you a uniparty force trying to take down MAGA? These narratives you are building and exaggerations, or flat out lies, on what I have said are wild.

If RDS had the ability to connect with voters I'd agree he is a much better option than Trump to win a general election but in the new age of politics having that connection with the voter is most important. RDS plan all along should have been that he was Trumps VP and then he gets the national recognition with the base of the Republican party. Deny it all you want but I said for over a year that RDS is not authentic and will not connect. I told you ON ELECTION DAY you would misinterpret the margin of victory.

 

[sturg33]

Ok - So are these lawsuits valid and in the spirit of true law?

If Trump didn't have personal funds would it be ok to spend the campaign funds on obvoius BS lawsuits designed to ensure Trump can't run for president and loses?

There is no question that some of the lawsuits are legitimately seeking law breaking behavior. The issue I have is the double standard in the justice system... where Beautiful Hilary can have her documents, and Pence can have his documents, and Biden can have his documents.

Sadly, we live under a communist regime banana republic... so justice isn't the play at the moment. I choose to live in the real world and the reality is that Trump did commit some illegal actions and this regime is hellbent on hanging him for it, while letting others and worse crimes slide.

All of 2024 will be about these cases. He can't win

 

[thethe]

There is no question that some of the lawsuits are legitimately seeking law breaking behavior. The issue I have is the double standard in the justice system... where Beautiful Hilary can have her documents, and Pence can have his documents, and Biden can have his documents.

Sadly, we live under a communist regime banana republic... so justice isn't the play at the moment. I choose to live in the real world and the reality is that Trump did commit some illegal actions and this regime is hellbent on hanging him for it, while letting others and worse crimes slide.

All of 2024 will be about these cases. He can't win

Can you tell me which of these actions were valid that Trump deserves to be prosecuted on?

And what about if Trump didn't have money would it be ok to use these campaign funds?

 

[sturg33]

Who said RDS was one of them or his supporters are? Have I called you a uniparty force trying to take down MAGA? These narratives you are building and exaggerations, or flat out lies, on what I have said are wild.

If RDS had the ability to connect with voters I'd agree he is a much better option than Trump to win a general election but in the new age of politics having that connection with the voter is most important. RDS plan all along should have been that he was Trumps VP and then he gets the national recognition with the base of the Republican party. Deny it all you want but I said for over a year that RDS is not authentic and will not connect. I told you ON ELECTION DAY you would misinterpret the margin of victory.

I was replying to this tweet you posted, implying that I am a victim of some uniparty conspiracy

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As for connecting with voters, I really don't care about that anymore. If other voters do, then they deserve to lose.

Democrats don't care. They voted for a vegetable corpse and they are seeing their policies moving forward. We can choose an entertainer (who keeps losing) or we can choose a ****ing killer

 

[thethe]

I was replying to this tweet you posted, implying that I am a victim of some uniparty conspiracy

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As for connecting with voters, I really don't care about that anymore. If other voters do, then they deserve to lose.

Democrats don't care. They voted for a vegetable corpse and they are seeing their policies moving forward. We can choose an entertainer (who keeps losing) or we can choose a ****ing killer

Ah, so the real issue is your misinterpretation of who are the 'uniparty forces' which is a strange stretch since I know you know who I am referring to. I know you know who Poso is referring to. I know you know who Cerno is referring to.

So that makes me question the intellectual honestly you are brining in this argument which is sad.

I also dont' care what the Democrats do - I care about winning and if you did you wouldn't say things like if "voters care about connecting with the candidate then we deserve to lose". Winning is all that matters and I am running with the horse that has already won two national elections and is in the best position from a polling perspective that he has been in his entire political career.

And very slick changing of your argument there to saying I accused you of being "A uniparty force trying to take down MAGA" to now "A victim of uniparty forces trying to take down MAGA". For the record I 100% agree with the your 'course correction' rewording. And after all we have seen since 2015 I thought you'd understand the chess board a little better by now.

 

[sturg33]

Ah, so the real issue is your misinterpretation of who are the 'uniparty forces' which is a strange stretch since I know you know who I am referring to. I know you know who Poso is referring to. I know you know who Cerno is referring to.

So that makes me question the intellectual honestly you are brining in this argument which is sad.

I also dont' care what the Democrats do - I care about winning and if you did you wouldn't say things like if "voters care about connecting with the candidate then we deserve to lose". Winning is all that matters and I am running with the horse that has already won two national elections and is in the best position from a polling perspective that he has been in his entire political career.

And very slick changing of your argument there to saying I accused you of being "A uniparty force trying to take down MAGA" to now "A victim of uniparty forces trying to take down MAGA". For the record I 100% agree with the your 'course correction' rewording. And after all we have seen since 2015 I thought you'd understand the chess board a little better by now.

Problem.is your uniparty forces are all people Donald Trump endorsed.

If anyone has fallen victim to them, it's him

 

[thethe]

Problem.is your uniparty forces are all people Donald Trump endorsed.

If anyone has fallen victim to them, it's him

Oh sure - After it was clear that Trump and economic populism was the future they hitched themselves to the wagon for additional grifting and a possible future take back of the party. Trump was naïve to think that the party could be brought together and while absolutely a mistake on his part I think his intentions were in the right place.

But again - Nice course correction on a flat out lie you said about me.

 

[sturg33]

Can you tell me which of these actions were valid that Trump deserves to be prosecuted on?

And what about if Trump didn't have money would it be ok to use these campaign funds?

I don't claim to be a legal scholar but people I trust have explained that his documents case is an actual breach of the law. While also showing other people the files admitting it on tape, and then bragging about it after the fact.

However, as I am no legal expert, I am open to persuasion... can you explain why this was not a breach of the law?

As for his legal fees... he's free to do with what he wants with the money (though I think he should be upfront to his donors about what they are funding). My point is every dollar going to Trump is 75 cents to lawsuits... every dollar going to Biden is a dollar to beat Trump.

Trump can't win

 

[sturg33]

Oh sure - After it was clear that Trump and economic populism was the future they hitched themselves to the wagon for additional grifting and a possible future take back of the party. Trump was naïve to think that the party could be brought together and while absolutely a mistake on his part I think his intentions were in the right place.

But again - Nice course correction on a flat out lie you said about me.

What was the lie you imagined this time?

 

[thethe]

I don't claim to be a legal scholar but people I trust have explained that his documents case is an actual breach of the law. While also showing other people the files admitting it on tape, and then bragging about it after the fact.

However, as I am no legal expert, I am open to persuasion... can you explain why this was not a breach of the law?

As for his legal fees... he's free to do with what he wants with the money (though I think he should be upfront to his donors about what they are funding). My point is every dollar going to Trump is 75 cents to lawsuits... every dollar going to Biden is a dollar to beat Trump.

Trump can't win

Ah - So now its Trump fault we have a weaponized justice department and the criticism of his legal fees is a backdoor way of supporting what has happened with legal system in this country against anyone who doesn't go along with the MSM.

So the question remains - If Trump didn't have money what is the end result of not being able to use these funds? Democrats choosing our candidates? That seems to be where you are headed here.

 

[thethe]

So maybe it should occur to you and cerno then, that people like sturg33 who support RDS are not "uniparty forces trying to take down MAGA"

Did I ever make this claim or come close to it Sturg?

If not, was this a lie?

 

[sturg33]

Ah - So now its Trump fault we have a weaponized justice department and the criticism of his legal fees is a backdoor way of supporting what has happened with legal system in this country against anyone who doesn't go along with the MSM.

So the question remains - If Trump didn't have money what is the end result of not being able to use these funds? Democrats choosing our candidates? That seems to be where you are headed here.

I once again ask you if you can explain why what he did was not a breach of the law?

I agree with you that justice system is a banana republic. It's why I'm so pissed that Trump let Beauitful Hilary off the hook

 

[sturg33]

Did I ever make this claim or come close to it Sturg?

If not, was this a lie?

Back to semantics I see.

 

[thethe]

I once again ask you if you can explain why what he did was not a breach of the law?

I agree with you that justice system is a banana republic. It's why I'm so pissed that Trump let Beauitful Hilary off the hook

A 'breach' of any law is mostly subjecting and open to argument. So to say there is a right or a wrong is well childish. The whole point is that these cases are being brought by a weaponized justice system with one aim and that is to stop Trump and economic populism.

I was hoping you'd go down this route and actually try to figure out the merits because it continues to speak to the fact that you don't understand what is happening at a higher level. Well, I actually think you do but like the 2020 election / Like Trumps fault on COVID - You have completley flip flopped with NO NEW INFORMATION.

 

[thethe]

Back to semantics I see.

As so semantics is when you make a completely different claim.

Got it - This is now the third time you've used this argument because you know I've beaten you into a corner.

You wanted me to respond to you. You wanted me to 'Show you why I believe the things I do" but when I do you run away with this pathetic excuse. Great job buddy.

 

[sturg33]

A 'breach' of any law is mostly subjecting and open to argument. So to say there is a right or a wrong is well childish. The whole point is that these cases are being brought by a weaponized justice system with one aim and that is to stop Trump and economic populism.

I was hoping you'd go down this route and actually try to figure out the merits because it continues to speak to the fact that you don't understand what is happening at a higher level. Well, I actually think you do but like the 2020 election / Like Trumps fault on COVID - You have completley flip flopped with NO NEW INFORMATION.

No I understand deeply what is happening.

The system is setting a trap for MAGA once again... and they are walking into it once again.

Let Trump play the martyr card in 2023 and then destroy him in 2024.

I want to win, not continue stepping on the rakes. You want to lose and complain about how it is not fair