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thethe said:
As so semantics is when you make a completely different claim.

Got it - This is now the third time you've used this argument because you know I've beaten you into a corner.

You wanted me to respond to you. You wanted me to 'Show you why I believe the things I do" but when I do you run away with this pathetic excuse. Great job buddy.
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Lol

I'm merely pointing out that you at one time were a RDS supporter who wanted Trump to go away. You were not a.victim of some conspiracy at that time... and I'm not a victim of any conspiracy today.

Trump is a failure and im.done with him. Rupert Murdock didn't GET ME!
 
Garmel said:
I've given a ton of explanations on here. Navy vs Egan and Judicial Watch vs. NARA says these are legal document possessions by Trump.
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he doesn't care - He is a victim of uniparty forces by his incredible heel turns while no new facts have been presented.

Its like he forgot he said all these things in the past.
 
sturg33 said:
Lol

I'm merely pointing out that you at one time were a RDS supporter who wanted Trump to go away. You were not a.victim of some conspiracy at that time... and I'm not a victim of any conspiracy today.

Trump is a failure and im.done with him. Rupert Murdock didn't GET ME!
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You are a victim because you say things completely opposite of what you said jsut 2 years ago.

While I have actually still been very supportive of RDS and hopeful for his future.
 
sturg33 said:
No I understand deeply what is happening.

The system is setting a trap for MAGA once again... and they are walking into it once again.

Let Trump play the martyr card in 2023 and then destroy him in 2024.

I want to win, not continue stepping on the rakes. You want to lose and complain about how it is not fair
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yes - The man who has won two national elections will be destroyed in the next election despite being as popular as ever.
 
sturg33 said:
If he wins in 2024 the same way he won in 2020 and 2022, I am not interested in that victory
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Ah but you certainly know that if the same thing happens in 2020 that RDS is able to stop it in 2024?

How will he do that? Be specific. you seem so sure so you must have a roadmap as to how he would win election challenges.
 
"Uniparty/Establishment forces will not let Trump win!" - Admission that Trump actually won in 2020 but is not serving and the same will happen in 2024.

Therefore Sturg is firmly in the corner of giving them exactly what they want. Hmm......
 
But just remember - The talking points went around to try and slam Trump for having to defend himself against bull**** unprecedented charges against a Marxist DOJ.

I just can't understand why Desantis is in the mid-teens now.

Again, RDS needs to think about his future. All hope is not lost. He just needs to dump the idiots who have no interest in his future.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not arguing about the possession part but about him showing them to others. But I am open to persuasion
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Supposedly, he didn't show them the documents but who knows? However, General Milley a week before this Trump audio had already released the Iran attack plan to the press so it looks like Trump is in the clear because Milley was never charged with anything.

As you've correctly said when Milley illegally leaks classified stuff he's not charged but they will go after Trump for it.
 
Garmel said:
Supposedly, he didn't show them the documents but who knows? However, General Milley a week before this Trump audio had already released the Iran attack plan to the press so it looks like Trump is in the clear because Milley was never charged with anything.

As you've correctly said when Milley illegally leaks classified stuff he's not charged but they will go after Trump for it.
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And thats the whole point - The weaponization is setting a precedent on the Establishment deciding who can and can't be president. So before the talking points memo from the idiots that run the RDS campaign came out they should have considered how this was going to spectacularly backfire in their face.

You can already see their most annoying influencers start to re-word their arguments.
 
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All the narratives of the uniparty are falling apart.

Trump is on pace to peel off tremendous amount of minority voters and disaffected Democrats in the non-marxist states. Stay the course - He won in 2020 and he will win again in 2024. Hopefully, RDS makes the right decision and dumps his idiotic handlers and becomes AG for 4 years.
 
sturg33 said:
I've argued with you so much I don't remember what we talked about yesterday let alone 6 weeks ago
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Ok well when you make claims as to what I said it would be helpful if you didn't make them up out of thin air when we are actually having a back and forth.

Can you tell me the last time I invented something you said or 'semantically' changed the claim during an argument?
 
thethe said:
Ah but you certainly know that if the same thing happens in 2020 that RDS is able to stop it in 2024?

How will he do that? Be specific. you seem so sure so you must have a roadmap as to how he would win election challenges.
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There are a couple things... RDS is actually smart. He will use ever legal tactical advantage he can in every single state. He is on record explaining how each state election rules are different, so his teams will be dedicated to understanding how they can exploit them to the fullest extent... for example - funding a massive ballot harvesting campaign in Nevada, whereas Trump said he already won Nevada twice so no need to make any adjustments.

Secondly, RDS can actually build coalitions... Brian Kemp doesn't despise him so he is likely to turn GA back red. Glenn Younkin doesn't despise him so he may be able to turn VA back red. etc etc... Trump build no coalitions... he has few allies remaining

What I know about Trump is he is adamant that he does not need to make any changes because he has already won. And the $250M he raised to impact election integrity has been lit on fire.
 
thethe said:
Ok well when you make claims as to what I said it would be helpful if you didn't make them up out of thin air when we are actually having a back and forth.

Can you tell me the last time I invented something you said or 'semantically' changed the claim during an argument?
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Yes when I accurately summarized your position but may have gotten the time wrong... and you focus on that and claim I lied

zito-esque semantics arguing is boring.

But it is reassuring to know you demand specifics from sturg33 but not from Steve Bannon
 
thethe said:
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All the narratives of the uniparty are falling apart.

Trump is on pace to peel off tremendous amount of minority voters and disaffected Democrats in the non-marxist states. Stay the course - He won in 2020 and he will win again in 2024. Hopefully, RDS makes the right decision and dumps his idiotic handlers and becomes AG for 4 years.
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You're going to have to pick a lane here.

CNN is pushing a strong Trump narrative. Is that them succumbing to reality or are they pushing an agenda?
 
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