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sturg33
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Are you struggling to follow along the thought process here?
No - I think your logic has a massive flaw in it.
Tell me why the Establishment Conseravtives and the Left are trying to do what it takes to physically not allow Trump on the ballot since they know they can beat him?
And then answer if Biden is more or less popular than he was in 2020. And then tell me what the margin of 'victory' was in 2020 across the key three states.
sturg33
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The same way Trump called nazis "very fine people"
Ah - So you know where my questions leads so you don't want to answer it.
It was a 'Deplorables' moment and gave insight into RDS thoughts.
sturg33
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1. which establishment republicans are tying to get him off ballots?
2. Dems will execute that AFTER he wins the nomination
3. Biden is less popular today than he was in 2020. As is Trump
4. The margin of victory was quite small... but Trump has to basically flip them all this time
sturg33
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no it wasn't. the fact that it offended you is you telling on yourself. his actual words were perfectly logical and reasonable... but it's been fun to watch the trump cult and the MSM team up to lie about it
But does he think 'Listless Vehicles' exist?
1) Federalist society were the ones who helped put out the BS theory of the 14th amendment
2) SO why start now and tip there hand?
3) There is nothing in any scientific polling that would indicate Trump is less popular nationally. Maybe within the squishy republican cross section but his popularity is higher with Independents and Minorities
4) Oh you mean there just needs to be less fake votes - Yeah not too hard with different rules.
sturg33
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if he doesn't he's not paying attention.
the trump cult literally proved his point right after he said it.
it's beyond parody at this point.
but to be clear, the same way Trump didn't call nazis very fine people, RDS didn't call Trump supporters listless vessels. it's disappointing but unsurprising to see the team trump once again adopt the shameless tactics of the left.
You didn't answer my question.
Does he think this group exists - yes or no?
If the answer is no then what spurred him to say it?
sturg33
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1. I don't know anything about the federalist society... are they elected officials working to get him off ballots?
2. gotta start the process now to get it done in time. they know everything they do today simply helps Trump win the primary. every attack against him not drives the mega cult to dig in deepers
3. his favorability is lower today than in 2020... im sure those polls don't count though
4. sure... less fake votes needed. you never told me how many were fake... reminder Biden added almost 15m votes to HRC
sturg33
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well im not inside the man's head so I can't answer your question.
but I definitely think this group exists. any logical human would
but, that's not what he said. so why do you and the msm feel the need to lie about what he said?
what was your take on when Trump asked why Iowa voters were stopped stupid for supporting Ben Carson?
1) You don't know anything about the federalist society? Stop it
2) Sounds like some QAnon stuff - Its all in the plan!
3) Favorability and who people vote for are not the same thing.
4) I told you nobody could know because we weren't allowed to test but I think deep down you have a good idea
Mentioning it means he thinks its a real thing or else he wouldn't have said it.
Therefore, he thinks that group of Republican voters are 'Listless Vehicles'
Try to peddle Desantis influencer points all you want the reality is that RDS tipped his hand. If he didn't think any of these voters are like that he would have never said it.
sturg33
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that you and the cult got so offended is embarrassing. you feel seen. biggest bunch of whining babies I've ever seen.
RDS was far too kind to the cult. he should just say what he feels because y'all are gonna lie about it no matter what. remember when y'all accused of working with the doj to take out trump? or when y'all accused him of murdering his sister? or when y'all accused his wife of faking her cancer? y'all are full blown leftists now... it's why the partnership with the msm is so perfect. all the people who defended Trump against msm smears are not seeing the cult do exactly the same thing.
I ask again what was your take on Trump asking why Iowa voters were so stupid for supporting Ben Carson?
Why would I be offended? I don't think what you think about Trump voters.
Its just a view into what RDS thinks while he pretends he was always the MAGA guy. You want to pretend he wasn't calling a large swatch of voters 'Listless Vehicles' because you know how bad that looks.
In regards to Trumps comment I'd have to watch 5 min before and after the quote but I would not be surprised if he said something stupid especially on the campaign trail in 2015-2016 as he was still rounding into form.
Who said the things in BOLD?
sturg33
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I think RDS was far too kind. saying "we can't just be listless vessels"... he should have said "there's a large group of people who have zeroo principles at all, and will simply bend to will of one man who has failed and lost continually... this is why our movement hasn't been sustained. the cult is holding us back"
as for the rest of your post... your girl Laura boomer leading the charge... trumps a big fan of her...
and I'M STUNNED YOU ARE EXCUSING TRUMP FOR CALLING VOTERS STUPID.
what a surprise. it's ok when your god does it. but when you imagine a made up quote from your opponent it's the end of the world for the alpha magadonians
as for the rest of your post... your girl Laura boomer leading the charge... trumps a big fan of her...
and I'M STUNNED YOU ARE EXCUSING TRUMP FOR CALLING VOTERS STUPID.
what a surprise. it's ok when your god does it. but when you imagine a made up quote from your opponent it's the end of the world for the alpha magadonians
Who said that I'm excusing it?
Do you want to go over Trumps 40+ year history of saying the same things and defending the American working class? But its good to know how you have always felt about these people. They don't actually support Trump because of his policies. It must be because they are stupid and just love trump.
I know you don't want to go there. Someone has shown consistency over the years and IMPLEMENTED policies that helped that group of people more than most presidents ever have.
Can you provide me with the specifics as to how Loomer said those things. I do think she is fantastic while being eccentric. You mentioned these things so you must have it at the ready.