Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

This is a very amusing and wrong-headed view. As we would shortly find out if the Trump administration had the guts to actually deport 5% of the workforce. These "generous" benefits are non-existent. A product of the febrile right-wing imagination. Vance was on firmer ground claiming dark-skinned immigrants were eating our cats and dogs.


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mqt said:
But hey, when they kick the working poor off Medicaid they will have primed their base to believe the decrease in people covered was comprised largely of illegal immigrants.
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Your compassion for that base exceeds mine. They voted for a ticket that went around promoting the idea that dark-skinned immigrants were eating their cats and dogs. There is a sort of rough justice that they suffer some consequences for that.
 
yeah...y'all a bunch of fake libertarians...prone to crying wolf about tyranny when the world is trying to deal with a pandemic killing millions...and strangely silent in the face of actual for real tyranny
 
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nsacpi said:
Your compassion for that base exceeds mine. They voted for a ticket that went around promoting the idea that dark-skinned immigrants were eating their cats and dogs. There is a sort of rough justice that they suffer some consequences for that.
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One thing that clicked for me was the realization that I had more tolerance for certain limitations of others than I did others. If I am willing to grant that some segments of the population are more prone to certain types of criminality due to systemic issues, why would I not also consider the rural voter in West Virginia being told by the President and the news that immigrants are to blame for the fact their lives are worse than their parents or grandparents’? The sensational tendencies of media combined with the editorial priorities of Fox News, Newsmax, etc. echoing the claims that cities are all being burned to the ground and the President saying he’s fighting for them against hordes of people here to take away their freedoms and way of life is if nothing else an effective propaganda tool, and I don’t think I need to be quite so harsh on some people believing Trump can improve their lives by “fixing” the problem.

It does not help that Democrats have all but abandoned that constituency in certain respects. Even if their policies might be more likely to have some positive impacts for that group, they’ve failed to articulate in a way that doesn’t alienate those voters. If you’re being told you’re a bigot for believing what you’re being told to believe, you’re not going to embrace the new message. So I don’t think it’s the case that one must believe the worst in others to hold certain progressive ideals.
 
mqt said:
It does not help that Democrats have all but abandoned that constituency in certain respects.
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Build Back Better and other policy measures undertaken by the Biden administration were carefully calibrated to try to help these very groups. Those disadvantaged by globalization and skill-biased technological change. Your contention does not square with reality. What the Democrats were not willing to do was to scapegoat certain groups like trans people and immigrants. That proved to be a far more effective way to win over those voters.
 
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