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In that case I'd almost rather see if either Blair or Wisler have anything to offer.

Who are u thinking as far as lesser arms. Ian Kennedy replaces what Colon was supposed to do. Is that what we have to look forward to.

Grrrrr. I understand all that but pitchers like Archer are not usually available. Shouldn't we try to snag him if we can. Provided folty isn't part of the trade .. Could say we might have a half way decent rotation.. A la.. 2013.

Would pay Albies and one of those pitchers. It would hurt but Archer is an ace who's contract is better then Julios.

If were not going to trade for an ace what's the point. But should ask any ideas on who the lesser pitchers might be.

My post disappeared it seems.... Anyway Really really want Archer and don't want to trade Julio. First Julio is a quality #2. Second he has a history of having a good to great season following a bad one. Third, I don't believe Folty is ready to be a #2 yet, and who knows with Newcomb. Finally...

Not sure about the deadline would rather have Archer for the whole year. Archer Teheran Folty Dickey Newcomb/Sims I think RA at 8 mil is a safer bet then buying a #4 starter see Bartolo. Question is can we get Archer without including Folty.

Not sure I'd buy now. Is rather wait till the off-season and see if we can pry Archer away from TB. Just my opinion but Archer is better then Gray. thoughts?

[Substitute Archer for Gray I'm down. (I know he's not available now) QUOTE=Heyward;409647]Gray Newk Lynn/Cobb in FA Dickey Folty Would be solid next year with an addition at 3B.

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Your thinking of Mercker Pena and Wohlers in 91. Mercker also no hit the Dodgers in 94.

What's the consensus on the trade deadline what do you think will happen with the team?

I'm also interested

What would be a fair price for Archer?

Still would rather trade for Archer

Would you guys include folty if you had to ?

Any chance we could pry Baez or Solar away from them ? What would it cost

Is it safe to start getting wrapped back up in the team again? Do you see 2017 as the start of a run or, is this team closer to, say the 1990 team?

Rosenthal says 8 teams have the pieces to get Archer surely we are one of them. Have to guess cuz they don't tell us who they are other then Pittsburgh

Do we have the pieces to get Archer? What would it take