2015 June Draft Results Thread

Here's a look at what we've done in the middle rounds (4-10) over the years.

2006 We took 6 college pitchers. Medlen (10) was the only one to make the majors.

2007 We took 3 college pitchers. Gearrin was the only one to make the majors

2008 We took 5 college pitchers. Clemens, Oberholtzer and Hoover have reached the majors

2009 Just 1 college pitcher. No one from this group has made the majors yet. A couple have reached AAA.

2010 We took 3 college pitchers. Terdoslavich and Gosselin have made it from the group we took in the middle rounds.

2011 We took 3 college pitchers. Graham and Martin have made the majors, along with La Stella.

2012 We took 3 college pitchers. No one has made it yet. David Peterson (currently pitching in High A after TJ surgery) is the best of a poor group.

2013 We took 1 college pitcher, Steve Janas, and he appears to be the one from this group with the best chance of reaching the majors.

2014 We took 3 college pitchers--Sobotka, Diaz and Roney. Too early to say much about this group.

Over the entire 2006-2014 period, about half our picks in rounds 4-10 were college pitchers. But they accounted for seven out of the ten of the guys who reached the majors. I leave each of your to draw your own conclusions. Also note that on average only 1 player per year from the rounds 4-10 draftees makes the majors. If we get a yield of two or three from this years group, it should be counted a success.
 
rico43 said:
Just a hunch, but watch what happens around round 10. The Braves should have a boatload of draft money left to spend and might start taking some real chances.
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Chances on who? Everett, Alonzo Jones, Luken Baker, Justin Hooper, etc? Matuella already got drafted...Who is still left out there that's intriguing?
 
One more observation. In recent drafts we have gone heavy on college pitching from rounds 11 onwards. Although there have been a couple finds (Shae Simmons and Chase Shreve), it seems to me that these late picks are a shot in the dark for all categories of players. It is an interesting (and imo worthwhile) experiment to move forward to the middle rounds (4-10) the emphasis on college pitchers.
 
Nosing around the internet a bit and checked out 10th round draft pick Stephen Moore from the Naval Academy. He's a native of Roswell, GA, and played his high school ball at The Walker School.

Found out another interesting tidbit. Former Braves' scouting director Chuck Lamar's kid--Charlie--also pitches for the Naval Academy.
 
steveAKAslick said:
Chances on who? Everett, Alonzo Jones, Luken Baker, Justin Hooper, etc? Matuella already got drafted...Who is still left out there that's intriguing?
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I heard today that Alonzo Jones is likely to honor his commitment to Vanderbilt.

There a few college OFs that are intriguing, including two guys the Braves drafted back in 2012: Ben Johnson and Gio Brusa. Johnson is an all-around guy whose game is built on speed and Brusa has pretty decent power. Thought both would go today.
 
To me the most interesting pick we have made in the draft so far is Anthony Guardado, the HS pitcher we took in the third round. It is a risky pick. The third round is really a transition round. In the first two rounds you can find an accomplished player with good upside. By the third round you need to make a choice--diamond in the rough with upside or a safer player with a higher floor. We obviously went with the former with Guardado. He is a good athlete (quarterback) who hasn't pitched much. But he showed four distinct pitches in a limited number of starts this spring, including a very good slider and live fastball.

I also like the Minter pick. The Braves thought he was a candidate for the first round before he hurt his elbow and had the TJ.
 
50PoundHead said:
Nosing around the internet a bit and checked out 10th round draft pick Stephen Moore from the Naval Academy. He's a native of Roswell, GA, and played his high school ball at The Walker School.

Found out another interesting tidbit. Former Braves' scouting director Chuck Lamar's kid--Charlie--also pitches for the Naval Academy.
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This is our one pick that will sign for significantly below slot. We have to sign him or lose the slot money. We've drafted some other military academy guys (McKague was the last one in 2012) in recent years. They've pitched a little for us in the minors but in the end their service commitment (or perhaps lack of good results) prevented them from continuing.
 
nsacpi said:
Here's a look at what we've done in the middle rounds (4-10) over the years.

2006 We took 6 college pitchers. Medlen (10) was the only one to make the majors.

2007 We took 3 college pitchers. Gearrin was the only one to make the majors

2008 We took 5 college pitchers. Clemens, Oberholtzer and Hoover have reached the majors

2009 Just 1 college pitcher. No one from this group has made the majors yet. A couple have reached AAA.

2010 We took 3 college pitchers. Terdoslavich and Gosselin have made it from the group we took in the middle rounds.

2011 We took 3 college pitchers. Graham and Martin have made the majors, along with La Stella.

2012 We took 3 college pitchers. No one has made it yet. David Peterson (currently pitching in High A after TJ surgery) is the best of a poor group.

2013 We took 1 college pitcher, Steve Janas, and he appears to be the one from this group with the best chance of reaching the majors.

2014 We took 3 college pitchers--Sobotka, Diaz and Roney. Too early to say much about this group.

Over the entire 2006-2014 period, about half our picks in rounds 4-10 were college pitchers. But they accounted for seven out of the ten of the guys who reached the majors. I leave each of your to draw your own conclusions. Also note that on average only 1 player per year from the rounds 4-10 draftees makes the majors. If we get a yield of two or three from this years group, it should be counted a success.
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Not a huge amount of Major League talent there... Medlen obviously the exception... doesn't seem like the best use of resources
 
sturg33 said:
Not a huge amount of Major League talent there... Medlen obviously the exception... doesn't seem like the best use of resources
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One of the points to come out is that you only get one major league player per year on average from those rounds. Some perspective is needed. If we get two or three from this years group, it has to be counted a success.
 
I don't think their emphasis on college pitchers in the middle rounds is a sign that they are having a knee jerk reaction to the bull pen woes. Rather, I think they simply saw these guys as power arms they could develop in the system.

The 4-10 rounds are the rounds where you take some high school prospects and they end up going to school because they believe they can go higher after three years. You will probably see the Braves take some hard sign guys later on, particularly if guys like Luken Baker, Alonzo Jones, and Cody Everett continue to drop. They did it with Ben Johnson, Braden Bishop, and Gio Brusa back in 2012.
 
nsacpi said:
Here's a look at what we've done in the middle rounds (4-10) over the years.

2006 We took 6 college pitchers. Medlen (10) was the only one to make the majors.

2007 We took 3 college pitchers. Gearrin was the only one to make the majors

2008 We took 5 college pitchers. Clemens, Oberholtzer and Hoover have reached the majors

2009 Just 1 college pitcher. No one from this group has made the majors yet. A couple have reached AAA.

2010 We took 3 college pitchers. Terdoslavich and Gosselin have made it from the group we took in the middle rounds.

2011 We took 3 college pitchers. Graham and Martin have made the majors, along with La Stella.

2012 We took 3 college pitchers. No one has made it yet. David Peterson (currently pitching in High A after TJ surgery) is the best of a poor group.

2013 We took 1 college pitcher, Steve Janas, and he appears to be the one from this group with the best chance of reaching the majors.

2014 We took 3 college pitchers--Sobotka, Diaz and Roney. Too early to say much about this group.

Over the entire 2006-2014 period, about half our picks in rounds 4-10 were college pitchers. But they accounted for seven out of the ten of the guys who reached the majors. I leave each of your to draw your own conclusions. Also note that on average only 1 player per year from the rounds 4-10 draftees makes the majors. If we get a yield of two or three from this years group, it should be counted a success.
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This is great analysis on past draft trends . . . thanks. It seemed like today so many of the college guys projected as RPs according to the media folks. I wonder if the Braves see value in these sorts of players as converted starters.
 
nsacpi said:
One of the points to come out is that you only get one major league player per year on average from those rounds. Some perspective is needed. If we get two or three from this years group, it has to be counted a success.
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That's not lost on me... but I'd rather take my chances on some positional talent because the return would likely be higher if we hit on one of them.
 
dak said:
This is great analysis on past draft trends . . . thanks. It seemed like today so many of the college guys projected as RPs according to the media folks. I wonder if the Braves see value in these sorts of players as converted starters.
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We've done quite a bit of that recently. Medlen, Beachy, Graham, Martin and Peterson were mostly relievers in college but were given a chance to develop as starters in the minors. I'd like to see our fourth round pick Josh Graham be given a chance to develop as a starter.
 
sturg33 said:
That's not lost on me... but I'd rather take my chances on some positional talent because the return would likely be higher if we hit on one of them.
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We do have some successes among the hitters we have taken. Terdoslavich, La Stella and Gosselin were also taken in the middle rounds. But the best return from the middle rounds has come from college pitchers.
 
Havent followed the draft but 11/13 pitchers is a bit stupid, sorry.

We dont have a ton of great hitting prospects, yes i know we develop pitching well but that seems too much.

IN before the i know more than the FO.
 
Heyward said:
Havent followed the draft but 11/13 pitchers is a bit stupid, sorry.

We dont have a ton of great hitting prospects, yes i know we develop pitching well but that seems too much.

IN before the i know more than the FO.
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Yeah, I'm not claiming to no more than the FO because I don't, but it does seem very underwhelming especially with so many picks in what seems like a VERY important draft for us...
 
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