2016 DRAFT Signing Tracker ... FINAL, JULY 15

smootness said:
Yes, it is an either/or. We don't lose all our other signees if Neslony doesn't sign. We do lose our 1st rounder next year, but the same is true if he signs for more than 10K. If he doesn't sign, we lose the slot value of that pick, which means we will then be over our bonus pool by more than 5% and will lose our 1st rounder next year. But we wouldn't lose our other signees. Why would that be the case?
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Read the other posts.
 
skillet said:
So then why not leave it at that. Simply, we'd love to sign you, and here is the amount we'd like to offer if we can move some money around, but until then, we can't give you a formal offer. Instead, they went ahead and made the offer before they knew if they really could.
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And that sounds like almost exactly what they did.
 
It's absolutely inexcusable that Bridges offered money to a draftee without having the hard budget numbers calculated first. I doubt any of the other 29 clubs did that with any of their signees.

It also makes me worry that Bridges might have screwed us out of our first round pick,next year. If he could offer Anthony $250k without having a clue if we had the money for it, who is to say he made sure we had the last slot signed for the $10k that is needed to keep us under the penalty?

As everyone has said, there is still no verification that we signed that last slot yet for $10k or less. If we can't, we just lost a top three overall pick next year.
 
Pachoo said:
It's absolutely inexcusable that Bridges offered money to a draftee without having the hard budget numbers calculated first. I doubt any of the other 29 clubs did that with any of their signees.
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You never know. It's a screw-up and shouldn't have happened, but the only reason we know about it is because Anthony went public with the 'offer'. There may have been several others in this draft in a similar situation and we just didn't hear about it.

This was likely a less formal discussion than we're thinking. Regardless, again, it's a screw-up and isn't good for us. But I'm not that worried about it.
 
Pachoo said:
It's absolutely inexcusable that Bridges offered money to a draftee without having the hard budget numbers calculated first. I doubt any of the other 29 clubs did that with any of their signees.

It also makes me worry that Bridges might have screwed us out of our first round pick,next year. If he could offer Anthony $250k without having a clue if we had the money for it, who is to say he made sure we had the last slot signed for the $10k that is needed to keep us under the penalty?

As everyone has said, there is still no verification that we signed that last slot yet for $10k or less. If we can't, we just lost a top three overall pick next year.
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And my guess is it happens all the time. Things like this have always happened, especially since the creation of the bonus pools.
 
Pachoo said:
It's absolutely inexcusable that Bridges offered money to a draftee without having the hard budget numbers calculated first. I doubt any of the other 29 clubs did that with any of their signees.

It also makes me worry that Bridges might have screwed us out of our first round pick,next year. If he could offer Anthony $250k without having a clue if we had the money for it, who is to say he made sure we had the last slot signed for the $10k that is needed to keep us under the penalty?

As everyone has said, there is still no verification that we signed that last slot yet for $10k or less. If we can't, we just lost a top three overall pick next year.
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Listen if they bungled this to the point of losing a top-3 pick next year; I'll be first in line with a pitchfork - but I just can't imagine that's the case. There could be a bunch of reasons he hasn't signed yet that have nothing to do with money; maybe he's just taking a couple days off after the CWS with his family.

Its all good, he's going to sign. They wouldn't have taken him where they took him and signed all the other guys overslot if this wasn't a done deal.
 
Assuming for a minute that Neslony is really the damn devil, and he intends to play hardball with the $10K number, the Braves could possibly sweeten his deal without upping the offer. Perhaps they could guarantee him a 40 man roster spot immediately upon signing. That would make up for a lot of the difference between his signing figure and slot value.
 
DirkPiggler said:
Assuming for a minute that Neslony is really the damn devil, and he intends to play hardball with the $10K number, the Braves could possibly sweeten his deal without upping the offer. Perhaps they could guarantee him a 40 man roster spot immediately upon signing. That would make up for a lot of the difference between his signing figure and slot value.
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and then DFA him immediately
 
yeezus said:
and then DFA him immediately
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That would be far too nice - he'd still be in a position to actually be traded to someone to continue playing.

If he costs you the pick, you simply pay his price and assign him to instructional league camp - for the entire 6 years that you control his rights. In that scenario, he doesn't play in actual games for the next 6 years.
 
clvclv said:
That would be far too nice - he'd still be in a position to actually be traded to someone to continue playing.

If he costs you the pick, you simply pay his price and assign him to instructional league camp - for the entire 6 years that you control his rights. In that scenario, he doesn't play in actual games for the next 6 years.
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in his case, we keep that pick.. giving him a spot on the 40 man bumps his minor league pay up.
 
DirkPiggler said:
Assuming for a minute that Neslony is really the damn devil, and he intends to play hardball with the $10K number, the Braves could possibly sweeten his deal without upping the offer. Perhaps they could guarantee him a 40 man roster spot immediately upon signing. That would make up for a lot of the difference between his signing figure and slot value.
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That's an interesting thought... you could guarantee him a callup in September to make ML money for one month
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I think this is a bit early. I think Boston should be able to scratch up 4 million in their pool. and if Groome turns down 4 million, he is a fool.. will be an interesting follow for the next two weeks.
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Not if he thinks he's worth $5 million. He's rolling the dice, but if he's in JUCO and doesn't lose any luster, he's probably in the top five next year.

We've gone round and round on Josh Anthony wanting more than $100,000, but he's taking a risk as well. Smaller scale obviously, but an injury or off year at Auburn and he's on the outside looking. Think Sam Gillikin.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I think this is a bit early. I think Boston should be able to scratch up 4 million in their pool. and if Groome turns down 4 million, he is a fool.. will be an interesting follow for the next two weeks.
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Cotillo's relatively well-connected with the Sox - worth noting when he mentions concern IMO.
 
clvclv said:
Cotillo's relatively well-connected with the Sox - worth noting when he mentions concern IMO.
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I originally said when they picked him that they would have trouble signing him.. but the more I thought and read, the more I figured Soxs could get to 4 million. I just find it hard for someone to risk 4 million in hand for 5.5 million next year... so much risk with a pitcher.. I know he can insure for injury.. but not for sucking..
 
My immediate thought after Groome announced he was committing to a JUCO is that he was going to ask for the moon and a handful of stars. Maybe that changes the last week of July, but my guess he's going to keep his demands in the stratosphere until then.
 
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