2016 DRAFT Signing Tracker ... FINAL, JULY 15

Preacher said:
The Braves likely see someone who they reasonably think can be a solid lefty out of the bullpen, and if you get that from a 5th rounder -- you call it a win every day of the week.

I just don't see the need to go overslot / 5th round for that guy. But I'm a guy giving an opinion on a guy who I've never knew existed before I saw his name in the draft; suffice to say take my thoughts with a grain of salt.
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3rd round*
 
mqt said:
3rd round*
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you right; I'm thinking 5th pick.

And I agree with your previous point; I don't know anything about him - so even though he feels like a reach there; the Braves have a better feel for that than I do obviously.
 
Unless Harrington can add some to his FB I don't see him sticking as a starter. I live in Louisville and have seen him many times. He has great command and devastating slider that sits consistently around 78-80 his FB tops at 92 sits usually in upper 80s. In horrid humid conditions on Sunday he was in the 8th at close to 100 pitches and still sitting around 85. So take that for what it's worth.
 
UofL_Braves said:
Unless Harrington can add some to his FB I don't see him sticking as a starter. I live in Louisville and have seen him many times. He has great command and devastating slider that sits consistently around 78-80 his FB tops at 92 sits usually in upper 80s. In horrid humid conditions on Sunday he was in the 8th at close to 100 pitches and still sitting around 85. So take that for what it's worth.
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If he's sitting 89-92 with the FB, combined with a really good slider and good control -- that'll play just fine in the pen.

Also... and this happens sometimes, maybe the velo ticks up if he's only working for an inning? So now you've got a guy sitting 91-94 with a very good off-speed pitch and the ability to locate.
 
Which is why I said I think he can fast track through in the pen. He is country strong and durable with fluid delivery. Just not sure he can actually be a starter as a pro.
 
Preacher said:
Being the conference player of the year doesn't necessarily speak to your ability to project as a major leaguer; from his write up - he sounds like a mid-level bullpen arm. Valuable sure, but not really someone to pick in the 5th round and go overslot to sign.

Of course if he makes the pen and pitches well for several years as a 5th round pick, that's plenty good enough to justify the investment, I just would have go after someone with a little more upside there.
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I actually love the pick and signing. Definitely won't hurt our system to have a fast-moving lefty pen arm so we don't have to waste time with the EOFs of the world this winter.
 
clvclv said:
I actually love the pick and signing. Definitely won't hurt our system to have a fast-moving lefty pen arm so we don't have to waste time with the EOFs of the world this winter.
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Listened to an interview Shanks did with Bridges -- says Harrington was a reliever prior to this year and pitched 93-94 in that role. :)
 
Very pleased to see us sign Wentz and Muller. There is little to no chance we fail to sign Anderson, so basically the only drama is Cumberland, which he's basically a lock.

We can debate how the draft went down, but in the end we grabbed three pitchers who are really good prospects and a catcher who is going to rake. Lots to like.
 
Seems like we'll have some money left over... wonder if we could've afforded Lewis, Wentz, and Muller? I'm thinking yes
 
sturg33 said:
Seems like we'll have some money left over... wonder if we could've afforded Lewis, Wentz, and Muller? I'm thinking yes
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Not unless you think Lewis would have signed for 11 pick slot money after having been picked 3rd. I really don't think they could have done that, and drafting those three would have created a huge risk of not signing one and losing pool money.

Lewis may not have required full 3rd pick slot money, but it is naive to think he would have signed for the price he did as a 3rd pick.
 
mfree80 said:
Not unless you think Lewis would have signed for 11 pick slot money after having been picked 3rd. I really don't think they could have done that, and drafting those three would have created a huge risk of not signing one and losing pool money.

Lewis may not have required full 3rd pick slot money, but it is naive to think he would have signed for the price he did as a 3rd pick.
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Not sure it matters...

Those first 3 picks had $9,587,300 in slot value.

Wentz is going for 3,050,000, and Muller for 2,500,000.

That leaves us with $4,037,300 to sign Lewis... which is essentially like being drafted 6th. Not to mention not doing things like going over slot on Harrington.

I think it's a stretch to say that Lewis was willing to sign for $3.2M, but would have been unwilling to sign for $4+M
 
sturg33 said:
Seems like we'll have some money left over... wonder if we could've afforded Lewis, Wentz, and Muller? I'm thinking yes
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Lewis almost certainly costs more if he's picked at #3.

Also... maybe Anderson is just better than Lewis. Time will tell.
 
11 other teams passed on Lewis, there are questions about his ability to make contact.

There are also questions about HS pitchers -- but they didn't pass on a sure-fire college bat.
 
Preacher said:
Lewis almost certainly costs more if he's picked at #3.

Also... maybe Anderson is just better than Lewis. Time will tell.
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The only point I made was that it seems we could have gotten Lewis instead of Anderson.

I don't buy the "would cost more at 3" argument. He signed for $3.2m... we could have definitively offered him more than that, so why wouldn't he have signed? If he wasn't willing to go back to school to get more than the $3.2M, why would have gone back to get more than $4m? (ignoring that there would be even less upside reward in doing it)
 
UofL_Braves said:
Unless Harrington can add some to his FB I don't see him sticking as a starter. I live in Louisville and have seen him many times. He has great command and devastating slider that sits consistently around 78-80 his FB tops at 92 sits usually in upper 80s. In horrid humid conditions on Sunday he was in the 8th at close to 100 pitches and still sitting around 85. So take that for what it's worth.
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That stuff certainly would profile just fine in relief.

Obviously, we could come up with the names of starters who have been solid and a handful who've been great with a fast ball sitting in the low 90s. I hate mentioning names because its pretty odd to take one trait and compare it to a hall of fame...basically taking the least likely scenario and presenting it as a probable one. Still, If the kid has a knack for pitching and hitting spots, then he can go a pretty good ways. I'm sure in this situation they are going to let him try starting before they switch him over.
 
Texas Tech's Tyler Neslony, who is going to the CWS, has been named the Super-Regional Player of the Week by somebody. Could well be a fast-rising hitter.
 
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