2016 DRAFT Signing Tracker ... FINAL, JULY 15

Uh oh, Anthony may not be a Brave after all. Tweets saying the Braves withdrew the offer to him due to a "miscalculation of budget"? Wow if true. Would guess that means Anderson's playing hard ball. So to speak.
 
Kind of a bonehead move. How does this happen? I have supported the majority of the FO's moves so far, but if true, man this reeks of amatueur night
 
I wonder if Neslony had initially agreed to a deal like Mooney's, then changed his mind and wanted something closer to what Gonzalez got after his tournament performance.
 
I'm on it!

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nsacpi said:
I think we just have to keep the faith that this FO knows a lot more about baseball than any of us do and that it is a gold standard organization that knows what it is doing.
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I always wonder why so many fans do this. I don't think they know more than I do, they just have a better job than I do! I suspect many fans would do better jobs than many FO's if given the opportunity. (not saying I would, I'm terrible with other human beings) But to just assume they all know what's best ..... well i just don't buy into that. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I suspect that D-Backs fans would lean toward the latter right about now.
 
bravos4evr said:
I always wonder why so many fans do this. I don't think they know more than I do, they just have a better job than I do! I suspect many fans would do better jobs than many FO's if given the opportunity. (not saying I would, I'm terrible with other human beings) But to just assume they all know what's best ..... well i just don't buy into that. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I suspect that D-Backs fans would lean toward the latter right about now.
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4evr: You make a lot of good points, and I like your posts, but in this case I disagree. They have contacts, access to data, and the ability to mine and interpret it in a way that we as fans just don't.

There are a lot of people on this board who really know a lot, and I come here several times a day because of the things I can learn about Baseball and the Braves that I would not otherwise know, but to say that most people on here know as much as the FO? A very few know enough to really judge what they do, and most of those don't question much because they know there is more to the equation than we are aware of.

JMHO
 
DaneHill said:
Uh oh, Anthony may not be a Brave after all. Tweets saying the Braves withdrew the offer to him due to a "miscalculation of budget"? Wow if true. Would guess that means Anderson's playing hard ball. So to speak.
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I saw that on an Auburn board. I wouldn't be surprised if it was made up by ticked off Tiger fans.
 
mfree80 said:
4evr: You make a lot of good points, and I like your posts, but in this case I disagree. They have contacts, access to data, and the ability to mine and interpret it in a way that we as fans just don't.

There are a lot of people on this board who really know a lot, and I come here several times a day because of the things I can learn about Baseball and the Braves that I would not otherwise know, but to say that most people on here know as much as the FO? A very few know enough to really judge what they do, and most of those don't question much because they know there is more to the equation than we are aware of.

JMHO
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well, I didn't say " most" or "on here" I was speaking in much broader terms,(as I wasn't 'calling out' the Braves FO either, just speaking in general) we have all seen GM's make moves that were just dumb, so dumb that anyone should have seen that coming. (cough cugh D-Backs) so I just don't buy into the idea that front office people are these master baseball gurus. They are just people, and prone to all the foibles and biases of all people.
 
Strange situation with Anthony. If he signed a contract, the Braves can't nullify it by saying they miscalculated.
 
bravos4evr said:
well, I didn't say " most" or "on here" I was speaking in much broader terms,(as I wasn't 'calling out' the Braves FO either, just speaking in general) we have all seen GM's make moves that were just dumb, so dumb that anyone should have seen that coming. (cough cugh D-Backs) so I just don't buy into the idea that front office people are these master baseball gurus. They are just people, and prone to all the foibles and biases of all people.
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You did kind of call out those who tend to trust the FO to make good decisions.
 
bravos4evr said:
well, I didn't say " most" or "on here" I was speaking in much broader terms,(as I wasn't 'calling out' the Braves FO either, just speaking in general) we have all seen GM's make moves that were just dumb, so dumb that anyone should have seen that coming. (cough cugh D-Backs) so I just don't buy into the idea that front office people are these master baseball gurus. They are just people, and prone to all the foibles and biases of all people.
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They may not have better judgment, but they have better knowledge and experience.

The stuff we do - analyzing stats and players, etc. - for a few hours a week in our spare time, those guys do all year long somewhere between 40-80 hrs per week. Plus they have access to honest opinions/ evaluation from scouts that we don't have. And that does matter, as numbers can lie if a player doesn't have the base level of athletic ability to translate his success to the big leagues. That said, even the best baseball people are still prone to screw ups.
 
bravos4evr said:
well, I didn't say " most" or "on here" I was speaking in much broader terms,(as I wasn't 'calling out' the Braves FO either, just speaking in general) we have all seen GM's make moves that were just dumb, so dumb that anyone should have seen that coming. (cough cugh D-Backs) so I just don't buy into the idea that front office people are these master baseball gurus. They are just people, and prone to all the foibles and biases of all people.
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And you're still wrong.

These people have access to FAR MORE information than you'll ever have - it really is that simple. If you want to be the smartest person in the room, you get access to and analyze the most data. That way, you're right more often than the rest of the people in the room. You also invite input from as many other "smart" people as you can.

The front office is a group of "smart" people with loads more information than we have, and they each have varying opinions that get talked through until they come to a consensus.

Don't confuse being smart with being intelligent - there are lots of intelligent people who do stupid things without taking the time to consider all the angles or to consult with other intelligent people before acting (or opening their mouths) - see Trump, Donald.
 
nsacpi said:
Strange situation with Anthony. If he signed a contract, the Braves can't nullify it by saying they miscalculated.
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He responded to someone on Twitter saying he hasn't taken a physical - my guess (and it's strictly that) is that that would keep the deal from being official.

Whatever the case, I sure would like to see an Anderson signing reported. Then we can worry about everything else sorting itself out.
 
clvclv said:
And you're still wrong.

These people have access to FAR MORE information than you'll ever have - it really is that simple. If you want to be the smartest person in the room, you get access to and analyze the most data. That way, you're right more often than the rest of the people in the room. You also invite input from as many other "smart" people as you can.

The front office is a group of "smart" people with loads more information than we have, and they each have varying opinions that get talked through until they come to a consensus.

Don't confuse being smart with being intelligent - there are lots of intelligent people who do stupid things without taking the time to consider all the angles or to consult with other intelligent people before acting (or opening their mouths) - see Trump, Donald.
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and yet they still make dumb decisions sometimes. Just like the rest of us. I just don't buy the idea that because someone is in a baseball front office they automatically know more than any of us do about baseball.
 
anyway, back on topic, do we have confirmation on this Anthony thing or is all just rumor at this point?
 
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