bravesnumberone
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And if you want that simple reason spoon fed to you.
Look at the total votes. Donald got the same number or less than McCain and Romney.
In 2012 Romney got 2,115,000 votes in michigan, Trump got 2,277,000. A big improvement but falls well shy of Obama's 2,564,000. In Wisconsin Trump got a measley 4K more votes than Romney.
Basically if 2016 Trump ran against 2012 Obama on pure vote numbers. Trump loses Michigan, Wisconsin, PA, Ohio, and the election. THat's not factoring in outside factors of course, but it's the reality that Hillary lost because she couldn't inspire her base. Not because of anything Trump did or independents did. She couldn't get her base out to vote.
I think it's a little of both. Most people would have been very surprised if Trump had lost but been at like 250 electoral votes, getting that close. I think he deserves some credit for being in it, but you're right. Her base failed to turn out in those Midwestern states. I don't think she inspired the confidence in all minority groups as people thought she would. The Hispanic/Latino community seemed to be the most motivated for obvious reasons.
EDIT: I also think a lot of the people who identify as independents are really Republicans who aren't comfortable with the party's stance on social issues.