2016 Postseason Thread

gilesfan said:
I'm not even sure what you are even getting at. They are using the best pitchers on the team in low leverage situations. That cannot be argued.

Cleveland could come in and blow the Cubs out tomorrow, but that doesnt mean it was the right move. Why ride guys when you don't have to?
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You said it yourself - they may not NEED him tomorrow.

Francona made a great call IMO. He seized the chance to absolutely take the series by the throat. They now only have to win one of three - AND have a day off. If he'd like, he can make Miller unavailable today and still have him for multiple innings in both Games 6 and 7. If everything goes wrong Sunday and Tuesday, the Cubs will still be staring at Kluber and Miller one more time - and in Cleveland to boot.

No one who ever complained about Fredi's "unbelievable faux pas" when he didn't go to Kimbrel can possibly be serious when criticizing this move. This is the World Series, and it's all hands on deck - if Miller was tired, he'd have told Francona he needed a day.
 
You are comparing not using your best pitcher in a 1 run game with using him in a 6 run game. You dont need Miller/Allen to seize anything up 6 runs. Using ofher guys has a lot of benefits.

You never know how the next game with go and there is no need to work your worse horses in low leverage situations.
 
It's interesting that Francona used Miller but not Allen last night. There is some logic in this. A five or six run lead is less secure in the 7th inning than the 9th.
 
Making miller unavailable today would be the dumbest managerial move this entire post season. And that is saying a lot with Dusty managing. But if Miller can't go or gives up a lead then Francona F'd up last night. Up 6 you let guys not often used go and have your studs ready if anything starts to go wrong. You could have had miller for 3 innings today and Allen for 2.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Making miller unavailable today would be the dumbest managerial move this entire post season. And that is saying a lot with Dusty managing. But if Miller can't go or gives up a lead then Francona F'd up last night. Up 6 you let guys not often used go and have your studs ready if anything starts to go wrong. You could have had miller for 3 innings today and Allen for 2.
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Tell that to Bochy and the Giants who used 5 Pitchers to blow a 3 run lead in the 9th against the Cubs this month. Or to Maddon who's been using Chapman in non-save situations lately.

You win the game when you have a chance to win the game in October - period.
 
clvclv said:
Tell that to Bochy and the Giants who used 5 Pitchers to blow a 3 run lead in the 9th against the Cubs this month. Or to Maddon who's been using Chapman in non-save situations lately.

You win the game when you have a chance to win the game in October - period.
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Bochy doesn't have Miller and Allen and a 3 run lead is still HALF of a 6 run lead. I understand winning the game you are playing and if this was elimination or clinching.. I might feel different.. but you have a chance to close this out today and having your best players available at their absolute best is more important than protecting a 6 run lead. Now that said, he probably has Allen for at least 2 innings today if he can close them out.. Salazar is also ready and able to pitch, and I bet Miller is ready for at least one inning.. Just would worry that Miller would not be 100%..
 
Craziness. Like 90% of baseball writers/experts picked Cubs.

Indians pitching has just been outrageous. Now Kluber is guaranteed to go at least 1 more time. Although I think if it's game 6 and Indians are on verge of winning, I think Francona wouldn't hesitate to use Kluber late in the game.
 
Forever Fredi said:
Craziness. Like 90% of baseball writers/experts picked Cubs.

Indians pitching has just been outrageous. Now Kluber is guaranteed to go at least 1 more time. Although I think if it's game 6 and Indians are on verge of winning, I think Francona wouldn't hesitate to use Kluber late in the game.
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very possible, but that better be a sure thing, because if you blow your game 7 starter, then you just cost the Series. I think he hopes to get Bauer through 4 innings and start using the pen early.
 
starting pitching matchup strongly favors the cubs tonight...i think that is part of the reason francona used miller for 2 innings last night
 
nsacpi said:
we're comparing two very small numbers: how much using miller improved their chances in game four vs how much their chances in game 5 were hurt
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Probably. But, if they used Miller 1 inning yesterday, they could possibly get 4-5 innings out of Miller/Allen tonight. Might be asking too much now.
 
if the indians are tied or ahead after the fifth tonight, we'll see Miller...for how long depends on his effectiveness, pitch count and lineup considerations
 
nsacpi said:
if the indians are tied or ahead after the fifth tonight, we'll see Miller...for how long depends on his effectiveness, pitch count and lineup considerations
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Right, but how effective will he be and for how long? Its at least less likely than if he went only 1 inning yesterday.
 
Heyward's funk continues. Somehow I expect him to get a big hit before this thing is over.

PS--Not following Maddon here. Why hit for Ross with 2 outs?

PPS--Now it makes even less sense because he was pulling Lester anyway. Wasted a bench bat with the ensuing double-switch.
 
Millwood1Hitter said:
Why take Rossy out? He's pretty much the reason the Cubs are winning tonight. You got the lead, I want Ross behind the plate.
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With Lester coming out, I think Maddon wanted to do a double-switch, but I think it was a mistake not to let Ross bat. The chances of scoring a run with two out and no one on is the lowest percentage out there. Wasted a bat.
 
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