BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
Huge? How so? And where?
2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]
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Huge? How so? And where?
sturg33
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You do recall Ron Paul? He raised many many millions more than Sanders... and had sold out crowds in arenas to hear him speak... And I believe you did not think of him as a serious contender, correct?
sturg33
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1. Bernie said only in America could a candidate doing what he is doing could be considered not serious
2. You appear to agree
3. I recall you never believing Paul was a serious contender
Are you following? I just love your consistent hypocrisy
57Brave
Well-known member
never said Sanders was a serious contender.
I agree with a lot of what he says bu realisticly h hasn't a snowballs chance.
I agreed with Paul on many issues. In August 2016 I think Sanders will have more effect on (D) platform than Paul in 2012.
But a serious contender- no. Niche candidate- if you will
I agree with a lot of what he says bu realisticly h hasn't a snowballs chance.
I agreed with Paul on many issues. In August 2016 I think Sanders will have more effect on (D) platform than Paul in 2012.
But a serious contender- no. Niche candidate- if you will
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Difference between Sanders and Paul is that more Democrats align with Sanders's beliefs than republicans aligned with Paul.
Rand is a more viable because he's less libertarian.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
let's put all of this into one post
cause sturg is nowhere near answering the original question etc
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
Sanders, the left's Ron Paul...
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
i could see the comparison to a degree
Sanders is polling higher than Paul though, right?
sturg33
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My bad - I was responding to the other meme.
Tough to keep up with all your memes these days
sturg33
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Paul was as high as high as 23% in the republican field (around 8 candidates) - and generally performed best in head-to-heads against Obama
It still pisses me off the way Paul was shafted in the Republican debates, then again he never was one for the zinger -- not able to adequately formulate his opinion in a quick-fire format.
sturg33
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Agreed... it was totally messed up how both the debates commission (which is owned by the Republican and Democratic parties by the way), as well as the GOP treated Paul.
But you're right... he generally went a little too complex with many of his answers - especially about economics - for the average voter to understand
sturg33
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Likewise for the socialist
Nobody is saying otherwise, just noting that the same could be said to those who actually believe that Bernie Sanders has a similar shot in hades. And Paul profiled better, actually having had a legitimately robust/successful grassroots fundraising machine.
Not really sure what would lead you to say that, Paul moved the needle on economic awareness (at a time when it actually mattered) in a more profound way than any fringe candidate since the OG, Ross Perot. Sanders is a one trick pony, populism is only cool until you start trying to talk about ... other things.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I disagree with this sentiment. 40 years ago, Paul would have been the Republican Nominee for president. Post-Reagan the religious right has wielded too much power for Paul to have a shot. The RR and the moderate reps would push another candidate (like McCain and Romney) in over Paul. Sanders is campaigning on things that pretty much every liberal likes. Do I think he could have beaten Obama? No. But there are chinks in Hillary's armor. If Bernie can last long enough and keep true to himself he'll make some noise. I think Hillary wins in the end but he'll make it super close. I don't think he quite has the team around him to make an Obama type of run and he won't take PAC money so that will be tough. Sanders appeals to a much broader base in the Democrat side than Paul did in the R side, and he is energizing the Millennials and young Gen Xers who pay attention. I can't go on facebook without a few friends posting various Bernie things. And they aren't all the same age at all. I've seen it from about 36 ro about 20.