CrazyTrain
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Let me just say that I would die if we gave Arizona another trash pitcher for something of value. Every time I hear or see Shelby Miller's name I laugh my ass off.
2018 Offseason And Targets
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Let me just say that I would die if we gave Arizona another trash pitcher for something of value. Every time I hear or see Shelby Miller's name I laugh my ass off.
Probably on AA's front burner at this point depending on how much salary Arizona's willing to take back.
Depending on the prospects involved, could you pull off a Greinke/Peralta/Bradley swap without giving up the farm that has them taking Julio and O'Day back?
~ $42 million in real salary coming this way with ~ $20 million going back.
Prospect cost would be interesting. If you could do it without Riley, Pache, or Contreras, I'd probably jump.
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Not even a question. You take Haniger all day over Realmuto.
Oklahomabrave
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The problem with a Greinke/Peralta trade that people adding Julio and O’day(who wouldn’t waive his NTC anyway) is that it wrecks our payroll next year and they aren’t young enough to have the upside to be enticing enough to do that.
How do you figure?
If you were able to keep Riley out of the deal, you'd be able to replace Donaldson's $23 million roster spot with someone making the minimum assuming you let Donaldson walk. Vizcaino would come off the books as well, plus Culberson and Mac.
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Tapate50
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God he was great in Black Hammer and White Lightening
bravesfanforlife88
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According to sporttrack, O’Day has a modified jontrade and designates 7 teams he can be traded to without having to waive the no trade
I dont believe this quote for a second. No GM would tell a fanbase they are low on funds while at the same time buying a position not needed and spending less than the prior year after specifically saying the opposite not over a month ago.
This sounds like a statement being made to an individual you are negotiating with or cover for some other action.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Nothing quoted in the media for AA indicates anything unless it’s “Trade signing is being finalized”. We can worry if we don’t like his moves after he makes them, but worrying AA has hamstrung himself after a year of planning is silly.
Definitely think any significant payroll add has to be approached creatively at this point.
AA has talked the talk when it comes to adding Donaldson, but it's still tough to imagine the plan included a $20 million signing (regardless of who it was) if the original plan intended to try to address every perceived hole (corner OF, SP, Closer, bench, etc.). Josh is a great fit, but it's not that hard to make the argument that spending on a LF and Closer and trading for a TOR arm while letting Camargo keep 3B warm until Riley comes up might not have been the way to go to more effectively address the overall roster concerns.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with the Donaldson signing - but it certainly hamstrings you a bit, and it makes it tough not to re-sign a healthy Donaldson if you include Riley in a deal at this point.
I have stopped believing anything AA says.
Logic dictates they know they need an impact player in LF, and logic also dictates they didn’t blow their wad on JD only to go cheap in LF.
They know LF is a problem. We know LF is a problem. It’s been known for a long time LF would be a problem. I find it hard to believe there wasn’t a plan in place to address it, or that they somehow signed JD because they momentarily forgot about LF.
I do, however, think they had resources set aside to address catcher and the bench, and signing JD to push Camargo to the bench just happened to be the course they chose to spend those resources. I don’t think it was a coincidence those deals happened nearly simultaneously.
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Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Exactly, worrying about media quotes that are intended as misdirection is pointless.
CyYoung31
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I never indicated I was worried about anything or that I even believed it. I take everything AA says with a grain of salt, I just thought it was interesting that he made this comment right after Enscheff expressed his worries on the matter.
Vague quote is vague.
AA just happens to have a better handle on GM-Speak than most folks we've had around the team in a long time.
TheRunningAgent
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Here’s what I think. We have heard Reamulto, Peralta, Haniger and the free agent outfielders. AA will do something totally different than what we have been hearing.
Tapate50
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DOB seems to think we’d be open to a vet FA but right now they want deals longer than two years, and right now he’s not real inclined to go down that isle. Said Brantley wants more like 20M a year rather than like 3/48.
Also we have been engaged on starters, not relievers to this point
Also we have been engaged on starters, not relievers to this point
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