2018 Offseason And Targets

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thewupk said:
If the Braves kept Camargo they would be going negative at 3rd as well. The numbers don't back up Johan continuing to be that type of player. Braves also are projected to get 3.6 WAR out of their catchers in 2019 after 3.5 last year between Suzuki and Flowers. So I'm not sure how that can be treated as a negative.
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I understand the analytics used to form that opinion on Camargo, but I think it's far too early in his career to say that he can't when he already has.
 
Southcack77 said:
Camargo really does smash LHP though.

I think there is a non-zero chance he actually is a young guy who just got better.

Passing over Josh Donaldson over that chance, when you can still give Camargo a ton of at bats all over the field would not have made sense.
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I've said this multiple times, but I thought Camargo really played his best when he had a full time role. I worry about that his jerking around will make a lot of people say "i told you so" at the end of the season, when really it's impossible to measure how a super utility role will affect his performance.

Anyway, may be a moot point since our manager doesn't even want JD riding on a bus for a couple hours right now.
 
TheBravos said:
It wouldn’t surprise me. Honestly, if Pache and Waters keep progressing...Pache should be close to ready for the beginning of 2020 and Waters near the end of 2020 (even Jenista for that matter). Muk would be a cheap place holder. I could see them keeping Muk and trading Ender. You don’t put a 80 grade center fielder in right field. That option is insurance in case one of the guys are not ready.
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Where do you think Andruw played when the Braves had Lofton in 97?
 
CrazyTrain said:
I understand the analytics used to form that opinion on Camargo, but I think it's far too early in his career to say that he can't when he already has.
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I just don't expect Camargo to continue to hit that well against righties which will bring his value down quite a bit.
 
striker42 said:
I don't have a problem with Tomlin as a long reliever/mop up guy early in the season. The starters aren't likely to pitch very deep into games leading to a heavier pen workload. So when a starter lays an egg and leaves in the third, we need someone to save the pen and give us innings. I don't want any of the young starters in that role. They need to be starting somewhere. So bringing in a guy like Tomlin for that role is perfectly reasonable.
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Agreed. Tomlin allows the Braves to avoid using a young guy as the long man who should be getting consistent innings starting in AAA.
 
mfree80 said:
A common fallacy on the board... The beginning of the season is not the end of the trading season. Who are they going to add at "this late date" doesn't really apply.
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It does when the team is in a dog fight with 3 other teams for the division. The Braves aren't the Dodgers or Astros or Indians who are so much better than the rest of their division that they can sit around and wait for things to sort themselves out. Every single win is going to matter this year.

Going into the season with this OF mix was a mistake everyone saw coming from day 1 of the off season, and if it costs them 1-2 wins before the trade deadline it could be the reason they miss the playoffs.

There is simply no way to justify starting the season with the current OF options. It was a complete failure by the FO.
 
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CrazyTrain said:
I've said this multiple times, but I thought Camargo really played his best when he had a full time role. I worry about that his jerking around will make a lot of people say "i told you so" at the end of the season, when really it's impossible to measure how a super utility role will affect his performance.

Anyway, may be a moot point since our manager doesn't even want JD riding on a bus for a couple hours right now.
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It's not impossible at all. Try doing a bit of research on the topic.

Just because a sales engineer can't understand it doesn't mean it's impossible.
 
I have always liked jorge as an option for the Braves. Wonder what it would take. Maybe throw Newk at them to get a bit more back. Newk seems like an over pay straight up.
 
mfree80 said:
A common fallacy on the board... The beginning of the season is not the end of the trading season. Who are they going to add at "this late date" doesn't really apply.
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There's generally less available at the start of the season. Teams see little point in trading their major leaguers. They can wait a bit, see if they comepete, then if they don't they can trade closer to the deadline at the same or even higher value.

We could probably get a mediocre 4th OF but anything more might be hard to come by without massively overpaying.
 
Yikes. The outlook is not looking good. Going into this season with this rotation and bullpen is unacceptable. AA failed this offseason.
 
msstate7 said:
This was not the start Wright was looking for trying to make the team
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Was listening to royals broadcast and they think the strike zone has rattled him. The first walk after the k was on a 3-2 pitch that the broadcast team said was a strike. No excuses since things like that happen and it shouldn’t affect you. But it looks like it did to wright.
 
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