2018 Offseason And Targets

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I come back to: Do you really want your highest paid player for the next three years to be a 36-38 year old pitcher that no longer gets his fastball consistently over 90mph?

I say no. It doesn't really make sense except as a way of protecting prospects.
 
Carp said:
Couldn't it be simply be that he didn't feel comfortable giving those particular players 3 years? We're also reportedly interested in Keuchel who almost certainly won't sign less than a 3 year contract unless the market collapses.

It's entirely possible we're looking to next off-season. But it's a trade worth discussing.
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Obviously not - His Highness has ordained it's not possible.

Everybody needs to stop wasting his time with such ridiculous ideas - he's obviously got so much on his plate that he doesn't have time to spend 18-20 hours a day here answering such stupid questions.
 
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Southcack77 said:
I come back to: Do you really want your highest paid player for the next three years to be a 36-38 year old pitcher that no longer gets his fastball consistently over 90mph?

I say no. It doesn't really make sense except as a way of protecting prospects.
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When your current highest paid player is a 33 year old 3B with an extremely checkered injury history? Doesn't seem to look quite so bad then.

Would it be a gamble? Sure. The difference is that Greinke has consistently proven that he can be a front-line SP with his diminished velocity - we're not talking about Julio here. He still misses a lot of bats, still doesn't walk anybody, and still doesn't get squared up very often.

I wouldn't blow the farm for him either, but if they ate the deferred money he wouldn't need to be THAT good to earn what you'd be paying him. The bigger question is which one of the current staff menbers/prospects do you have more confidence in being a 200 IP, 3+ WAR Pitcher for the next 3 years? Like everybody else, I hope Folty, Gohara, Soroka, and Anderson could - but we don't have any guarantees they will.

To me, it's more about the realistic window being open from now through 2021 - after that you have to make a decision about how much production you hope to get from a potentially declining Freeman.
 
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I'm wondering more and more about Piscotty... don't know if he's available but is a good bounce back candidate. Hard to believe he was easily focused on the game last year with his mom fighting and losing her battle with ALS

Edit: nevermind... 2017 was the down year... dang he was much better last year than I remembered
 
clvclv said:
When your current highest paid player is a 33 year old 3B with an extremely checkered injury history? Doesn't seem to look quite so bad then.
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Did you really just compare paying JD for 1 year to paying Greinke for 3 years? Those are similar situations in your mind?

Will the stupidity ever end?
 
clvclv said:
When your current highest paid player is a 33 year old 3B with an extremely checkered injury history? Doesn't seem to look quite so bad then.

Would it be a gamble? Sure. The difference is that Greinke has consistently proven that he can be a front-line SP with his diminished velocity - we're not talking about Julio here. He still misses a lot of bats, still doesn't walk anybody, and still doesn't get squared up very often.

I wouldn't blow the farm for him either, but if they ate the deferred money he wouldn't need to be THAT good to earn what you'd be paying him. The bigger question is which one of the current staff menbers/prospects do you have more confidence in being a 200 IP, 3+ WAR Pitcher for the next 3 years? Like everybody else, I hope Folty, Gohara, Soroka, and Anderson could - but we don't have any guarantees they will.

To me, it's more about the realistic window being open from now through 2021 - after that you have to make a decision about how much production you hope to get from a potentially declining Freeman.
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You realize Donaldson is on a one year deal, right?
 
zbhargrove said:
I'm wondering more and more about Piscotty... don't know if he's available but is a good bounce back candidate. Hard to believe he was easily focused on the game last year with his mom fighting and losing her battle with ALS

Edit: nevermind... 2017 was the down year... dang he was much better last year than I remembered
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I think he's a good one to have. I would rather see him than joey Gallo that everyone keeps talking about.
 
Lenny said:
I think he's a good one to have. I would rather see him than joey Gallo that everyone keeps talking about.
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Piscotty would be fine, I suppose, but he'd probably be pretty freaking pricey given that he is cheaply controllable through 2023. He's only making 28.5 million dollars through 2022 and has a 15 million dollar option for 2023 as well with a 1 million dollar buyout. He'd cost us an arm and a leg.
 
clvclv said:
Nope. Had no idea.
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You're being sarcastic obviously but your posting logic makes me wonder sometimes. I've never seen someone compare such vastly and completely different things/ideas/situations to each other to justify his dumb ideas... it'd do wonders for you to listen to everyone on this board, swallow some pride, and learn a thing or two
 
jpx7 said:
Ninety-percent of learning is learning you ain’t know ****; the other forty-percent is judicious guesswork.
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people often talk about having an open mind...i think in a lot of situations sincerity is what is lacking when trying to look at things from a different perspective
 
zbhargrove said:
You're being sarcastic obviously but your posting logic makes me wonder sometimes. I've never seen someone compare such vastly and completely different things/ideas/situations to each other to justify his dumb ideas... it'd do wonders for you to listen to everyone on this board, swallow some pride, and learn a thing or two
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You do realize you're nowhere close to that list of people, right?

I'm so upset that I don't make some of you people happy that I'm looking into therapy.
 
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