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he bought 6 wins for 30m....pretty good work in my book
2018 Offseason And Targets
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As far as cOF goes that guy wasn't available in FA. You had the superstar in Harper (who's production honestly matches up with what I'd want to go after long term but the hype behind him pushes him way out of our price range) and then a bunch of low-end guys like Brantely and McCutchen. There was no Justin Upton available this off season.
Honestly there is nothing wrong with holding serve (JD and Neck on a 1 year deal) constitute that and reassessing next year when more long term options that fit what the Braves are looking for (mainly 3B) are available.
It can be frustrating to not really make true additions but the team as is can/will contend for the playoffs.
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I really don’t care as a fan what kind of value other teams get. The only thing I care about is if they win more games than Atlanta. Nobody gets a prize for being the most cost effective.
bravesfanforlife88
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Asking the fan to spend more money per ticket, while the team refuses to spend more on the team is frustrating
Southcack77
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I think the odds are heavily in favor of Donaldson being a better player than Pollock in 2019. There is a very good chance that he ends up being the best FA bat next year.
I'd much rather pay him 23m for one season than pay Pollock 14.5 with basically a buyout on the end.
the only thing that would convince me that Donaldson was a bad decision would be Machado or Harper singing with another team for something like 3/84 or 2/60. And that's not going to happen, I don't think.
If Machado ends up taking anywhere close to $200M, the JD signing was a mistake. I'm not sure AA could have predicted that, but he should have been able to see the 3B/Util market was deep and a bargain was bound to be present late in the off season. Jumping on JD early probably wasn't the best decision, but at least it didn't add any long term risk.
Whether or not this off season was a failure depends on what the stated goal was...
If the goal was "create a 90+ win roster to defend the NL East in 2019", then this off season grades out around a D+/C-.
If the goal was "create a playoff contender in 2019 while sacrificing as few 2020+ wins as possible", then it grades out as a B+/A-.
Both grades can obviously still change with additional moves.
I was personally hoping AA would strike a little better balance between those 2 goals, but I can't be too upset with how things currently stand. This team should be playing meaningful games into September, and that's the realistic goal of teams with a $120M payroll.
Whether or not this off season was a failure depends on what the stated goal was...
If the goal was "create a 90+ win roster to defend the NL East in 2019", then this off season grades out around a D+/C-.
If the goal was "create a playoff contender in 2019 while sacrificing as few 2020+ wins as possible", then it grades out as a B+/A-.
Both grades can obviously still change with additional moves.
I was personally hoping AA would strike a little better balance between those 2 goals, but I can't be too upset with how things currently stand. This team should be playing meaningful games into September, and that's the realistic goal of teams with a $120M payroll.
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dak
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I feel like the media and many fans would be over-the-moon with the Braves' offseason if AA had signed a 4-5 WAR position player to a massive 8-9 year contract plus a draft pick. He's instead signed a 4-5 WAR position player to a 1 year contract that may allow us to add a draft pick, and a lot of folks seems non-plussed.
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Kind of how I feel. It's good for us when others get poor value since it takes them closer to the luxury tax threshold that seems to be acting as a soft cap (and why the Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox etc are hesitant to go out and buy a Harper or a Machado). I like that we get 6 wins for 30M, that is definitely good value. If the Nats but, say 10 wins for 80M (just throwing out a number) that may be the difference for them to win the division and us staying home
This is true. But those are the issues with being a mid market team with a low payroll. Maximizing good value for the Braves is really important.
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Off-topic: Find it amusing that the spend-stupid-money Phillies are taking Nola to arby over $2.25M after the season he had
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msstate7
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Did they get cut?
The Phils are going to lose this arb hearing. The current non-Keuchal record for 1st time arb for a pitcher is Willis at $4.35M way back in 2006...13 years ago. The Phils are insane to think Nola will only be awarded a trivial increase over that 13 year old figure.
There is reason to believe it is Encheff. (JK, I couldn't resist.)
We all understand that Donaldson's comfortable in the 2 hole, but Acuna and Freddie are the franchise. If Acuna wants to leadoff, that's where he hits IMO. Doesn't appear to be an issue since he said he'd hit wherever Snitker wants him to at Chop Fest, but if I'm giving someone their way, it's the Manchild.
Of course a Realmuto addition fixes everything.
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This article just enraged me even more. Team is way more profitable but payroll remains stagnant. Lovely.
It really is puzzling. The Phils are the ones who proudly announced their intent to spend stupid money. Perhaps they don't want to limit their stupidity to what they spend to the exclusion of what they don't, although I think they'll still spend it. I would think they will lose, as you imply.
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