2018 Offseason And Targets

[thewupk]

I say screw em. They wanna walk? Let em all.
We can pay fair value as fans - like my kid and I aren’t gonna go to the park all the time anyway.
They shouldn’t make anything close to what they make.

I mean I don't think Shroud should be making over a million a year playing games on Twitch but it happens. Those in the top 1% of their industry that are entertainers are going to get paid. It's just how it is.

And I'd much rather the players get a big piece of the pie like they are now instead of it just lining the pockets of the owners.

 

[Super]

So you mean they didn’t just bank on prospects automatically becoming stars?

amazing how badly you fail when trying to make a point.

 

[msstate7]

Segura
Cutch
Harper
Hoskins
Herrera
Hernandez
Franco
Alfaro

 

[bravesfanforlife88]

Mish did a Q/A on twitter today, some stuff about the Braves from him.

Albies long gone man. Marlins no longer demanding ML player. Would be probably 3 prospects from ATL.
Looks to me like the Braves have to re engage the Marlins. MIA is getting calls. They are listening.
If the Braves and Marlins aren’t going to talk they can’t do a deal. Simple. (AA needs to call and engage it sounds like ugh not good)

He said that he thinks we will know today if the Braves are still in it or not

 

[bravesfanforlife88]

Dillon Gee and Jarrod Saltalamacchia have announced their retirement...

 

[Heyward]

Segura
Cutch
Harper
Hoskins
Herrera
Hernandez
Franco
Alfaro

Thats still not very good tbh.

 

[Super]

Thats still not very good tbh.

still poor defense, too. improved, yes. but improving from all-time bad isn't a big accomplishment.
and still no pitching depth, and still not a single lefty starter worth a damn.
i think the organic improvement from the braves young guys will overcome that.

 

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

It seems likely that the Marlins FO is leaking stuff to Mish as a means of improving its leverage in trade talks...given this motivation I have doubts about the accuracy of his info

I'm still a young Padawan but have come to this conclusion awhile back as well.

 

[nsacpi]

I'm still a young Padawan but have come to this conclusion awhile back as well.

high midichlorian count has this one

 

[Acuña’s Bat Flip]

He said that he thinks we will know today if the Braves are still in it or not

So we won't know if we are still in the JTR auction until Spring training?

 

[Heyward]

still poor defense, too. improved, yes. but improving from all-time bad isn't a big accomplishment.
and still no pitching depth, and still not a single lefty starter worth a damn.
i think the organic improvement from the braves young guys will overcome that.

It's certainly better and assuming he goes there, there will be a ton of hype. But to this point, they havent done much to improve their rotation which declined in the 2nd half of the year. I suppose they could go for Keuchel or someone else, but as it is now, they're a little better than last year.

The defense would be improved, but not by eons.

 

[Southcack77]

It's certainly better and assuming he goes there, there will be a ton of hype. But to this point, they havent done much to improve their rotation which declined in the 2nd half of the year. I suppose they could go for Keuchel or someone else, but as it is now, they're a little better than last year.

The defense would be improved, but not by eons.

They may have gotten 3 wins out of moving Hoskins out of LF alone.

With Harper, I'd guess they would have added nearly 10 wins this offseason.

I had some calculation on that somewhere in this thread, but not gonna find it or re-do it.

They'd feel like the better roster, but the Braves have a more pitching depth.

 

[bravesfanforlife88]

TODAY: Whatever progress was made has clearly not yet resulted in a deal. It’s not just that the Marlins want to wait to see if other clubs will increase their offers. Rather, per Heyman (via Twitter), the Fish and the Reds are “still apart on prospects,” with other clubs also still engaged with the Cincinnati organization.

 

[Super]

They may have gotten 3 wins out of moving Hoskins out of LF alone.

With Harper, I'd guess they would have added nearly 10 wins this offseason.

I had some calculation on that somewhere in this thread, but not gonna find it or re-do it.

They'd feel like the better roster, but the Braves have a more pitching depth.

you think Hoskins will be a 6-win 1B? he's still not good defensively, even there. unless i'm reading that wrong.
due to poor drafting&developing, they'll still have a team devoid of depth - especially in the pitching department. they'd need to sign a few more guys at least. they'll be improved on paper, but then i think their starters over-performed for a long time last season and i just don't think it will happen again.

 

[tululush]

TODAY: Whatever progress was made has clearly not yet resulted in a deal. It’s not just that the Marlins want to wait to see if other clubs will increase their offers. Rather, per Heyman (via Twitter), the Fish and the Reds are “still apart on prospects,” with other clubs also still engaged with the Cincinnati organization.

Translation, our bluff hasn’t encouraged the Braves to up their offer so we’re going to continue to wait on them by saying other clubs are still engaged. It’s amateur hour down in Miami.

 

[nsacpi]

Translation, our bluff hasn’t encouraged the Braves to up their offer so we’re going to continue to wait on them by saying other clubs are still engaged. It’s amateur hour down in Miami.

I don't think the Braves have even made an offer. Marlins using Mish to fabricate this.

 

[Southcack77]

you think Hoskins will be a 6-win 1B? he's still not good defensively, even there. unless i'm reading that wrong.
due to poor drafting&developing, they'll still have a team devoid of depth - especially in the pitching department. they'd need to sign a few more guys at least. they'll be improved on paper, but then i think their starters over-performed for a long time last season and i just don't think it will happen again.

Maybe... Hoskins has a small sample at 1B, but comes out largely average there, all things considered. You give him back the 1.8 wins that he lost by playing LF, and he's at 4.7 wins, which isn't so far off from 6 for a 25 year old.


It's probably more like 2.5 wins in left than 3 wins.

 

[Tapate50]

I don't think the Braves have even made an offer. Marlins using Mish to fabricate this.

maybe not formal, but they know what we have on the table I bet. I'd bet its still the best package, and the Cincy talk of one of their big three or four guys was designed as a shot in the arm to talks with us most likely.

 

[Southcack77]

maybe not formal, but they know what we have on the table I bet. I'd bet its still the best package, and the Cincy talk of one of their big three or four guys was designed as a shot in the arm to talks with us most likely.

I can't see Cincinnati (why is that so hard for me to spell) trading Senzel.

 

[msstate7]

Maybe... Hoskins has a small sample at 1B, but comes out largely average there, all things considered. You give him back the 1.8 wins that he lost by playing LF, and he's at 4.7 wins, which isn't so far off from 6 for a 25 year old.


It's probably more like 2.5 wins in left than 3 wins.

Can we just give dansby the extra 1.3 to make 3.2 fWAR? Lol