2018: The Year Of The Venezuelan Trout

zitothebrave said:
Strasburg, Stanton, Montero, Matusz, Posey, Jennings, Alvarez, Feliz, and Santana rounded out the 2010 top 10, 2009 was a relatively weak class with Wieters, Price, Rasmus, Hanson, Snider, Anderson, Maybin, Bumgarner, and Feliz rounding it out.

Of course you can look at the list and laugh because Montero, Matusz, Jennings, Alvarez, and Feliz never really shook out. But that's the risk with prospects. Sometimes things derail their career. Heyward was on his way to an amazing career before his horrific face injury. Honestly, if the worst case for Acuna is to have the same value as Heyward, I would flip my ****. On his rookie contract (which will likely be 1 year shorter than Acuna's) Heyward compiled about a 28 fWAR. If we get that from Acuna everyone should be so happy.
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Okay... again... I never said they were that much different... just my perception which doesn't make it right or wrong. Its not really a quantifiable variable... measuring hype of prospect.
 
thethe said:
Heyward was an all time prospect and followed it up by having one of the best age 20 seasons in history. Not everything needs to be a slight on jhey
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The rookie year was terrific, but everything since was the overly-exaggerated greatness that did not follow. He has gotten to cash some nice paychecks though.
 
clvclv said:
Good or not good, does anybody honestly believe Theo doesn't wish he had that contract back???
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Ok. Is anybody going to argue against that? Heyward was an uber prospect that generated 28 WAR in his pre-FA years. We should be ecstatic if Acuna or anyone else is a 4-5 WAR player in their pre-FA days in Atlanta.
 
zitothebrave said:
Heyward was the number 1 prospect at 20, Acuna the number 1 at 20. There is a bit of a difference between the 2 of them, but both were incredibly high rated prospects. Heyward was a legit 5 tool prospect.

Difference was the year before top. 2017 he was 67 on BA and 31 on BP. Conversely though Heyward in 08 was 28 and 36 respectively. 2009 he was 5 and 10 and then 2010 he was 1 and 2.
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It's more so the eye test.

Acuna looks like a HOF level player, he just makes the game look so easy for someone his age.
 
Heyward said:
It's more so the eye test.

Acuna looks like a HOF level player, he just makes the game look so easy for someone his age.
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Said the exact same thing about Heyward

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2009/09/16/jason-heyward

"Heyward has lightning-quick bat speed, his defense and arm strength are above-average, he runs well, and at 6-foot-4, 225 pounds he could still grow more. He's been compared to Dave Parker, Willie McCovey, Fred McGriff and ... you get the drift."
 
bravesfanMatt said:
why?
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Because the discussion isn’t regarding Heyward as a Cub. It was from the beginning up until clv’s post about he as a prospect and early career. The only point to bringing up the contract is to rile up JHey stans, hence me calling that post trolling.
 
clvclv said:
Good or not good, does anybody honestly believe Theo doesn't wish he had that contract back???
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thewupk said:
Ok. Is anybody going to argue against that? Heyward was an uber prospect that generated 28 WAR in his pre-FA years. We should be ecstatic if Acuna or anyone else is a 4-5 WAR player in their pre-FA days in Atlanta.
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Yeah, if Acuna has Heyward's pre-FA years you can't be mad. Especially since we'll have one more under control. If we can get 30+ fWAR from Acuna I'll be super happy. If he's even better than that I'll be ecstatic.
 
Heyward was one of the most hyped prospects ever. Acuna is being hyped, as all #1 prospects are, but he won't ever be able to surpass Heyward's hype.
 
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