2019 MLB Draft Thread

Super said:
correct. he didn't say "we took him because we felt we needed a catcher soon and he's a catcher who isn't far away."
it's "we liked him, and he also happens to be a good fit in the organization."
but the whining is so fun, so anything that allows me to turn it up..
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The misquote running rampant about Shew is annoying too. Brown never said they drafted him as a utility player... he said if he doesn’t stick at short, he could be a utility guy. Sounds like he said they drafted a SS to me.
 
zbhargrove said:
The misquote running rampant about Shew is annoying too. Brown never said they drafted him as a utility player... he said if he doesn’t stick at short, he could be a utility guy. Sounds like he said they drafted a SS to me.
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A good utility player is quite valuable. We've seen guys like Marwin Gonzalez, Zobrist, Chris Taylor, Kike Hernandez play important roles on championship teams. Shorter benches for position players implies you need a higher quality guy taking up most of the bench spots.
 
nsacpi said:
A good utility player is quite valuable. We've seen guys like Marwin Gonzalez, Zobrist, Chris Taylor, Kike Hernandez play important roles on championship teams. Shorter benches for position players implies you need a higher quality guy taking up most of the bench spots.
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You don’t have to convince me. I am fine with the pick. It’s just a stark and obvious misquote to say Brown said they drafted a utility player.
 
zbhargrove said:
The misquote running rampant about Shew is annoying too. Brown never said they drafted him as a utility player... he said if he doesn’t stick at short, he could be a utility guy. Sounds like he said they drafted a SS to me.
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If they drafted him as a SS then Brown is a bigger fool than I thought. Brown already said he thinks Shewmate will put bulk onto his frame. Considering his average speed, any extra bulk will almost certainly move him from SS. I've really not seen anywhere expecting him to stick at SS.

He'd honestly probably be more valuable in a super utility role than as a full time SS. He'd be too much of a liability there.
 
nsacpi said:
A good utility player is quite valuable. We've seen guys like Marwin Gonzalez, Zobrist, Chris Taylor, Kike Hernandez play important roles on championship teams. Shorter benches for position players implies you need a higher quality guy taking up most of the bench spots.
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Shewmate's value will be based largely on how his power develops. All of the guys you mentioned have (or have had) 20+ HR power in their careers. If Shewmate can develop that kind of power while maintaining his hit tool and learning to play half a dozen positions, he'd have very good value.

I'm not convinced the power comes. That swing looks more like a leadoff hitter's swing than a slugger. It's going to have to be overhauled to tap into any power he develops. I don't like drafting a 21 year old in the first round and having to overhaul his swing.
 
striker42 said:
If they drafted him as a SS then Brown is a bigger fool than I thought. Brown already said he thinks Shewmate will put bulk onto his frame. Considering his average speed, any extra bulk will almost certainly move him from SS. I've really not seen anywhere expecting him to stick at SS.

He'd honestly probably be more valuable in a super utility role than as a full time SS. He'd be too much of a liability there.
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You are relentless once you get going.
 
clvclv said:
I can't possibly be the only person here that finds someone who played "D1 ball at University of the Pacific while getting a degree in physics" calling someone pathetic for trying to "legitimize" themselves on an internet message board absolutely hilarious.

You might take a little time to look up pathetic lives - you'll find that's you in that image in the mirror.

By the way, how bad does it suck that I started talking about Langeliers at #9 weeks ago? You're bound to need something strong to wash that down with, no?
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My comment was a direct answer to a direct question. And as usual you can't comprehend what was being discussed. I was giving him a hard time for using his daddy's credentials to legitimize himself.

Don't be mad that I'm more intelligent and a better athlete than you. It's OK, you can still own your failed Braves blog that nobody has ever read.

There were about 30 names we discussed at 9. You probably talked about 20 of them. I, and many others, also discussed Lango at 9. You didn't figure anything out...you never do.
 
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Southcack77 said:
You are relentless once you get going.
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Debate is fun and the draft is particularly fun because of the volume of new additions to talk about.

And Shewmate isn't a SS. You can justify the pick far better by embracing the utility role and saying he'll develop at the plate enough to be Zobrist than sticking to him being a SS.
 
i wish this forum allowed you to completely block a poster, seeing none of what they say.
the incessant whining is too annoying and it's 50% of each page of the thread.
 
Since I’ve never watched them play I won’t comment on the players taken. However, I am disappointed with the overall strategy. Drafting a near ready D first catcher makes some sense to me since the organization is thin there and with the DH most likely coming to the NL the need for a great hitting C is reduced. My disappointment is not taking a HS kid with high potential with the 21st or 60th pic. The strategy was too conservative in my opinion.

Overall this draft looks weak. It will be interesting to seem who emerges as the best of the class.
 
JxnMissFan said:
Since I’ve never watched them play I won’t comment on the players taken. However, I am disappointed with the overall strategy. Drafting a near ready D first catcher makes some sense to me since the organization is thin there and with the DH most likely coming to the NL the need for a great hitting C is reduced. My disappointment is not taking a HS kid with high potential with the 21st or 60th pic. The strategy was too conservative in my opinion.

Overall this draft looks weak. It will be interesting to seem who emerges as the best of the class.
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The only one I've watched play is shewmake, so he's the only one I've really commented on. I like him. I'm less than under qualified to say he'll be successful or not though. I do know he's been a good player in the sec
 
mqt said:
Pretty sure Mayo and Callis were talking about Shea at 9 for the past month, so maybe get off your high horse.
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Southcack77 said:
Plenty of people were talking about Langeliers. Mostly negatively, but they were talking. He was pretty publicly linked to the Braves.
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bravesfanMatt said:
What is your goal.
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Super said:
the never ending question.
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Super said:
wow you were talking about a guy linked to the Braves for a while who was projected to be drafted right around that spot.
super weird and pretty dumb flex but ok
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mqt said:
Amazingly, I don’t have particularly strong feelings in either direction on whether or not you were correct about this draft pick. I just think it’s amusing that you’re taking a victory lap on something that has been rumored to be possible for the same amount of time you’re claiming to have suggested it.
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And then you get called out by 5 different posters, all of whom realize you are a total buffoon.

LOL...love it!
 
striker42 said:
What I'm saying is that if Langeliers went 18 or Shewmake at 42, no one would bat an eye. FG had Langeliers at 14 so him going at 18 wouldn't be a shock. Shewmake was at 54 on the Fangraphs board.

We almost certainly had these guys higher on our board but our board seemed to put more weight on position of need. Brown said as much last night after drafting Langeliers. That's the problem.

It's just difficult to make the argument that these guys were the best players available. They weren't.
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Nobody was shocked when Lang or Shew went where they did either. They were not a reach. They each went right in the range most thought they would go.
 
I wanted the Braves to draft Jerrion Ealy. The kid is a beast on the football and baseball field.
Plus all the MS State guys here would love it because that takes him from Ole Miss.
 
Carp said:
Nobody was shocked when Lang or Shew went where they did either. They were not a reach. They each went right in the range most thought they would go.
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Langeliers, I'll admit, is by far the most justifiable pick. He went a couple spots higher than most had him ranked but that stuff happens on draft day. My only point was it wouldn't have shocked anyone if he'd gone 18. Langeliers seemed to be more in the 10-20 range of the draft. Still, I can live with this pick.

Shewmake made much more sense if we'd gone overslot in the second round. He was not where most thought he would go. The Braves definitely jumped on him sooner than the majority. There might have been another team or two that had him in their 20's but the consensus was second rounder. Somewhere between 40 and 60. So not a shock to go at 21 but well sooner than expected.
 
striker42 said:
Langeliers, I'll admit, is by far the most justifiable pick. He went a couple spots higher than most had him ranked but that stuff happens on draft day. My only point was it wouldn't have shocked anyone if he'd gone 18. Langeliers seemed to be more in the 10-20 range of the draft. Still, I can live with this pick.

Shewmake made much more sense if we'd gone overslot in the second round. He was not where most thought he would go. The Braves definitely jumped on him sooner than the majority. There might have been another team or two that had him in their 20's but the consensus was second rounder. Somewhere between 40 and 60. So not a shock to go at 21 but well sooner than expected.
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I think the first two picks are pretty much justifiable whether there is consensus agreement about them as individual players or not. I'm just not getting the 2nd rounder at all. Glad to be wrong if he turns out to be a good player.

What is probably throwing a lot of people off (myself included) is the apparent change in organizational thinking about the draft post-Coppolella (and by extension Clark and Bridges).
 
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