2019 MLB Draft Thread

Russ2dollas said:
It's not a determination, it's an observation and a feeling. I'm not saying never draft a college bat. The Baylor guy is a college bat/catcher. Very clever personal shot though! Good for You!

I am just surprised on how everyone seems so positive on the ASU kid when it looks like he has big red flags.


I am not saying who we should draft. I don't even know their names. Just curious why people do not seem to be worried about a college player who is toolsy but has some production issues.
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your last sentence in that post was nonsensical at best.
an observation of what? one college player drafted in last year's draft that we still know little about?
a feeling based on what? one college player drafted in last year's draft that we still know little about?
if people gotta get their silliness off i guess i can try and let it go.
 
clvclv said:
That said, having someone that has that kind of defensive profile makes Contreras' defense slightly less important and he could be your offensive-minded half of the future "platoon" without hurting things much.
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That sort of upside still is far from worth a top-ten draft section. Like I said upthread, he sounds like a second- or third-round type.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I am just surprised on how everyone seems so positive on the ASU kid when it looks like he has big red flags.
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Bishop and langeliers basically have the same the same hit tool grades for the most part, yes. So basically both have questions from a contact perspective.

The difference is Bishop has a huge power tool, which makes him a potential star offensively if his hit tool is real.

Langeliers has a pretty average hit tool to go along with an average power tool.

I don't think it as much people are ignoring Bishop's red flags as much as langeliers has way more, and his offensive upside seems limited.
 
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auyushu said:
Bishop and langeliers basically have the same the same hit tool grades for the most part, yes. So basically both have questions from a contact perspective.

The difference is Bishop has a huge power tool, which makes him a potential star offensively if his hit tool is real.

Langeliers has a pretty average power tool to go along with an average power tool.

I don't think it as much people are ignoring Bishop's red flags as much as langeliers has way more, and his offensive upside seems limited.
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Similar to the Gorman situation last year, in terms of risk/reward—the difference being Gorman’s youth and relative level competition. Given his performance since becoming a professional, he’s an example of why rolling the dice on a guy like Bishop is a much more attractive proposition than it is for a guy like Langeliers.
 
jpx7 said:
Similar to the Gorman situation last year, in terms of risk/reward—the difference being Gorman’s youth and relative level competition. Given his performance since becoming a professional, he’s an example of why rolling the dice on a guy like Bishop is a much more attractive proposition than it is for a guy like Langeliers.
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Yeah, Gorman is a good comparison. I think Austin Beck and Jo Adell are good comparisons in the 2017 draft as well. If Bishop's hit tool translates well you can wind up with Gorman or Adell, if it doesn't you can wind up with Austin Beck and not much of anything.

But that's a risk with any bat at the end of the top 10, they are going in that range rather than the top 5 because they have some holes and risk.
 
Here is a name that I haven't seen talked about much: Jerrion Ealy. I don't think you take him with the 9th or 21st pick, but if he is still there at 60 would he be worth the risk of him honoring his commitment to Ole Miss in football? The dude's tools are LOUD. The only question mark with him is his hit tool. He's got power upside, he's an 80 grade runner, good defensive outfielder. It'd probably take an overslot deal to sign him, but I'd really like to see him in our farm if at all possible.

You could say the same thing about Maurice Hampton too, but I like Ealy's athleticism more.
 
BeanieAntics said:
Here is a name that I haven't seen talked about much: Jerrion Ealy. I don't think you take him with the 9th or 21st pick, but if he is still there at 60 would he be worth the risk of him honoring his commitment to Ole Miss in football? The dude's tools are LOUD. The only question mark with him is his hit tool. He's got power upside, he's an 80 grade runner, good defensive outfielder. It'd probably take an overslot deal to sign him, but I'd really like to see him in our farm if at all possible.

You could say the same thing about Maurice Hampton too, but I like Ealy's athleticism more.
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Wouldn’t you say hit tool is probably the most important tool. I don’t know the kid from a hole in the ground. But a lot football players would project the same. If they could actually hit a baseball.
 
BeanieAntics said:
Here is a name that I haven't seen talked about much: Jerrion Ealy. I don't think you take him with the 9th or 21st pick, but if he is still there at 60 would he be worth the risk of him honoring his commitment to Ole Miss in football? The dude's tools are LOUD. The only question mark with him is his hit tool. He's got power upside, he's an 80 grade runner, good defensive outfielder. It'd probably take an overslot deal to sign him, but I'd really like to see him in our farm if at all possible.

You could say the same thing about Maurice Hampton too, but I like Ealy's athleticism more.
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All I know about him is from football recruiting. During his recruitment, it was a consensus among ones following his recruitment that Ealy was a definite 1st rounder.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Wouldn’t you say hit tool is probably the most important tool. I don’t know the kid from a hole in the ground. But a lot football players would project the same. If they could actually hit a baseball.
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Hit tool is the most important tool, but its also the hardest tool to project and evaluate. His other tools are so loud that if his hit tool can get to a ~50 then he'll likely be a star.
 
clvclv said:
Not sure Servais ever had anything approaching Langeliers' defensive ability, but I'd agree that having him turn into an "everyday" Catcher would require serious improvement with the bat.

That said, having someone that has that kind of defensive profile makes Contreras' defense slightly less important and he could be your offensive-minded half of the future "platoon" without hurting things much.
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So with the 9th pick in the draft, you'd like to spend it on someone who could may be become our backup catcher.... Wow.
 
Carp said:
So with the 9th pick in the draft, you'd like to spend it on someone who could may be become our backup catcher.... Wow.
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I see that guy mocked to us by cbs and pipeline.
Law says he was a top 10 guy before hamate injury.

I think the guy could be a star. He doesn’t have a lot of power but the new ball plus launch angle.

Plus he might be a guy you can get underslot.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I see that guy mocked to us by cbs and pipeline.
Law says he was a top 10 guy before hamate injury.

I think the guy could be a star. He doesn’t have a lot of power but the new ball plus launch angle.

Plus he might be a guy you can get underslot.
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His injury z creates another red flag. It doesn't alleviate others.

Simply put, there are better options who are safer bets to reach the majors. A catcher with questions whether his hitting will translate is not someone you spend a top 10 pick on.
 
Carp said:
His injury z creates another red flag. It doesn't alleviate others.

Simply put, there are better options who are safer bets to reach the majors. A catcher with questions whether his hitting will translate is not someone you spend a top 10 pick on.
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My understanding of the hamate injury is that is something people overcome after two years. If that's wrong, then I'll learn something.

I'm just surprised the view is so negative on the board vs the people doing mock drafts.

Bishop seems to be a big time ATH. We could use a LH bat. He's very tall and Judge has shown you can be that tall and play in the OF. It just seems odd that people aren't worried about sample size given how his first year went and how he has performed vs better competition. Seems to me to be a very small sample size of offensive excellence.

I think in two years we are looking at Waters and Pache in our OF. I'd be looking for HS kids with tools over college bats.

I really wish we could trade the 9 pick and two pitchers for the number 1 pick to the get the OSU catcher.
 
auyushu said:
Bishop and langeliers basically have the same the same hit tool grades for the most part, yes. So basically both have questions from a contact perspective.

The difference is Bishop has a huge power tool, which makes him a potential star offensively if his hit tool is real.

Langeliers has a pretty average hit tool to go along with an average power tool.

I don't think it as much people are ignoring Bishop's red flags as much as langeliers has way more, and his offensive upside seems limited.
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To go along with top-tier pop times, framing, and blocking skills behind the plate.

Just find it a little funny that everyone's all about how important it is to have really good defensive Catchers until there's a chance to draft one.
 
clvclv said:
To go along with top-tier pop times, framing, and blocking skills behind the plate.

Just find it a little funny that everyone's all about how important it is to have really good defensive Catchers until there's a chance to draft one.
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It's also important to have good BP arms, but nobody takes them with the 9th pick in the draft...

As usual, your understanding of a topic is...lacking.
 
clvclv said:
To go along with top-tier pop times, framing, and blocking skills behind the plate.

Just find it a little funny that everyone's all about how important it is to have really good defensive Catchers until there's a chance to draft one.
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come on dude
 
One thing to keep in mind is the possibility of robo umps calling balls and strikes in the future. If that happens, Langeliers' framing skills are suddenly worthless.
 
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