2021 MLB Draft

CJ9 said:
Shoemaker is interesting. Perfect Game has him as the 136 high school prospect in the country. Runs his fastball to 95, supposedly a big time projection arm. I can never figure out how to imbed tweets here, but here's a scouting report: https://twitter.com/brian_recca/status/1412991290720100353.
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Sounds like he fits our most-recent draft strategies to a T. Estes and Owens were both drafted in that range in 2019 and signed in the $500,000 range. From the earlier link that was posted, it sounds like Shoemaker is more interested in getting on with his professional career than going to school - no reason to think he wouldn't sign for that type of money.
 
Rangers draft highly-ranked OF Will Taylor with the 2nd pick of the 19th round. I imagine they will try to scrape every nickel together to see if they can sign him, but he must have made it clear he's Clemson-bound.
 
CJ9 said:
He’s a UF signee so I actually know a decent bit about him. Good speed/power combo. Would be pretty surprised if he signed though.
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Evans appears to be the late-round "sweep the corners for spare change" guy. I was surprised that no team seemed to go big on "tough sign" high school guys. Stovall, Montgomery, and others weren't drafted. We may be heading for an era when almost every guy after the first couple of rounds will be a college player.
 
Southcack77 said:
Not sure.

How has picking high school pitchers worked out for Braves?

Braves have somewhat rarely picked college arms early up till recent years.

They had mixed at best success with high school arms.

Current regime is just getting started really.
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Ian Anderson. Muller. Soroka. Allard. Wentz.
Trade: Fried. Ynoa (international). Tehran (international).

I know it's a small sample size for recent but Anderson, Muller Soroka, and Wilson have had more impact than the many college pitchers we have drafted and traded for recently.

We just haven't seen a college pitcher be an asset, even a reliever asset, in a long time. Where is the guy that out of college was in the big leagues 3 years later out of the pen? Maybe go back to Kimbrel or maybe minter, but I think both were CC or JUCO guys.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Ian Anderson. Muller. Soroka. Allard. Wentz.
Trade: Fried. Ynoa (international). Tehran (international).

I know it's a small sample size for recent but Anderson, Muller Soroka, and Wilson have had more impact than the many college pitchers we have drafted and traded for recently.

We just haven't seen a college pitcher be an asset, even a reliever asset, in a long time. Where is the guy that out of college was in the big leagues 3 years later out of the pen? Maybe go back to Kimbrel or maybe minter, but I think both were CC or JUCO guys.
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Most of your high school guys in that list came from a short burst period where Braves were spending multiple early picks on high school guys.

Braves have rarely spent high picks on college pitching prior to the current regime.

Sure, Wright looks like a fringe MLB player, but not sure he's less a prospect in the long run than Allard, Wentz, Wilson or even Muller.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Ian Anderson. Muller. Soroka. Allard. Wentz.
Trade: Fried. Ynoa (international). Tehran (international).

I know it's a small sample size for recent but Anderson, Muller Soroka, and Wilson have had more impact than the many college pitchers we have drafted and traded for recently.

We just haven't seen a college pitcher be an asset, even a reliever asset, in a long time. Where is the guy that out of college was in the big leagues 3 years later out of the pen? Maybe go back to Kimbrel or maybe minter, but I think both were CC or JUCO guys.
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The Braves don't seem to care much about home grown relief talent.

I think they took another college closer from state of Texas in 2019 but that's about all the draft stock I recall being put in play.

We know they rarely convert a failed starter and generally spun them off for spare parts rather than do it.

I just generally think they haven't taken that many college guys with actual draft capital until lately. When they do it tends to have been Drew Harrington types (was that his name). I guess Tristan Beck was in first five rounds but that was pretty low upside.
 
Southcack77 said:
Minor, Beachy, Medlin, were post hs grad guys.
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Last century (or so it seems).

I think we are talking about high draft picks and Minor in 2009 and Wood in 2012 are the only two high college pitching picks they took that amounted to much until Wright. First-round picks Hursh and Gilmartin flat-out sucked.

The Braves aren't as high school arm heavy as they were drafting guys like Brett Duvall and Zeke Spruill and all of baseball appears to be moving away from all but the highest tier of high school pitching prospects so the debate has become somewhat moot. Roy Clark liked high school and junior college arms and he was pretty good at identifying guys who had a chance to be successful. Roy Clark isn't here anymore and the baseball draft has changed dramatically in the past half decade, so it is what it is.
 
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