2024 Field
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cajunrevenge
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How do you know she is bad if you don't know what she is about. People know. You are just playing games.
cajunrevenge
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Tapate50
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Tell us your favorite policy she has
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
She was clearest in his acceptance speech about
1) codifying Roe v Wade via federal statute (obviously assumes the new Congress will provide the votes to do this)
2) reviving the border and immigration bill negotiated with Republican senators (again the cooperation of Congress will be needed)
3) supporting Ukraine and our NATO allies in opposing Putin
I think there are some other clear differences on how Trump and Harris will handle the expiring tax cuts. She wants to extend them for all households with incomes below $400K. He supports extending them for all households, regardless of income.
She also is more favorably inclined to restoring the enhanced refundable child tax credit that expired at the end of 2022.
Other differences: accepting election results, not pardoning those convicted of crimes related to January 6, law and order (I especially like this one as it applies to predators like her opponent).
Although neither has been focused on this particular issue, judging from their track records (hers as attorney general in California and his as president) I think she will be more aggressive when it comes to antitrust actions. It is an issue that deserves more attention, given that lax enforcement in the past 25 years has led to Americans having to pay an extra $4000 per person per year to corportations that have found ways via the political process to insulate themselves from competition.
1) codifying Roe v Wade via federal statute (obviously assumes the new Congress will provide the votes to do this)
2) reviving the border and immigration bill negotiated with Republican senators (again the cooperation of Congress will be needed)
3) supporting Ukraine and our NATO allies in opposing Putin
I think there are some other clear differences on how Trump and Harris will handle the expiring tax cuts. She wants to extend them for all households with incomes below $400K. He supports extending them for all households, regardless of income.
She also is more favorably inclined to restoring the enhanced refundable child tax credit that expired at the end of 2022.
Other differences: accepting election results, not pardoning those convicted of crimes related to January 6, law and order (I especially like this one as it applies to predators like her opponent).
Although neither has been focused on this particular issue, judging from their track records (hers as attorney general in California and his as president) I think she will be more aggressive when it comes to antitrust actions. It is an issue that deserves more attention, given that lax enforcement in the past 25 years has led to Americans having to pay an extra $4000 per person per year to corportations that have found ways via the political process to insulate themselves from competition.
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You’re quite right. I just fail to see how in a basically unprecedented situation that the freshly-minted poll scientists on Twitter can look at these results and be so bold in their beliefs that their talking points on Harris and Walz are sticking.
Runnin
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So how do we think her ascendancy went down behind the scenes? And how much of the new Dem platform and presentation of itself is her and how much of it is the "liberal" Queenmaker Nancy Pelosi, who we have been told for years by the right is stupid and ineffectual?
Here's one possible plotline:
Whisperings about Biden among staff and others started long before the debate debacle. It was widely reported in media, too.
The debate happened and it was clear to all Biden was over the hill and 4 more years was too much to expect.
Friends and Dems in high places tried to get him to consider dropping out. He wasn't having it.
Finally, Nancy (with Obama?) gave him an ultimatum - either quit or have all support pulled out from under him.
An angry and spiteful Biden gave the party a final jab on his way down - "If I go at least you take my VP instead."
Nancy, Obama and party elites wanted a quick caucus of some sort. Joe said FU to that and threw his support behind a Harris nomination.
Kamala Harris leaned into Joe, let him smell her hair, and said "Don't worry Joe. I got this."
In short order Nancy, others and now Wall St. and the world have realized that Joe might get the last laugh.
Is this how it happened??? Pretty compelling story no matter where you sit.
Here's one possible plotline:
Whisperings about Biden among staff and others started long before the debate debacle. It was widely reported in media, too.
The debate happened and it was clear to all Biden was over the hill and 4 more years was too much to expect.
Friends and Dems in high places tried to get him to consider dropping out. He wasn't having it.
Finally, Nancy (with Obama?) gave him an ultimatum - either quit or have all support pulled out from under him.
An angry and spiteful Biden gave the party a final jab on his way down - "If I go at least you take my VP instead."
Nancy, Obama and party elites wanted a quick caucus of some sort. Joe said FU to that and threw his support behind a Harris nomination.
Kamala Harris leaned into Joe, let him smell her hair, and said "Don't worry Joe. I got this."
In short order Nancy, others and now Wall St. and the world have realized that Joe might get the last laugh.
Is this how it happened??? Pretty compelling story no matter where you sit.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The part that somewhat piques my interest is the 30 minutes between his announcement he was dropping out and when he tweeted out his support for Harris. That pretty much foreclosed a competitive process. Although even if he hadn't tweeted out his support, I think there would have been a rapid closing of the ranks.
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Runnin
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Probably not. It sucks a little but securing the nomination and winning the general election are different. MAGA Man has a lock on the Rep nomination but can't win the general. Bernie can't win the nomination but could probably win the election. Same with Ron Paul. And now Harris? If she wins it will make a lot of people do some rethinking.
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think Haley called it when she said the party that found a way to dump its old dude would win.
sturg33
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You and I both agree that the democratic establishment removed the will of the people in the process to select the nominee
Shameful
Well, I know these "freshly minted poll scientists" are actually listening to the more accurate pollsters from 2020. The more accurate pollsters are also showing us how these pollsters are fudging the numbers.
If you don't believe me let's bet on Trump only winning Florida by 4 and Harris winning North Carolina.
I love easy money.
Runnin
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Maybe Joe simply forgot to endorse her the first time.
Runnin
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Isn't that interesting! The people didn't know what their will was until Nancy told them.
By the way, you are far too negative. You need more joy in your life.