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thethe said:
I’m sure everything would have been different and the left would not have seized control had trump not announced that.

It’s very much in line with how true left has behaved the last decade.

You don’t actually believe these things you say now do you?
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You don't think I believe that trump shutting down the country to enable a massive never before seen mail in ballot election to occur is the reason he lost?

Yes, I do believe this. I said so at the time. I turned out correct.
 
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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) says “a school district would be totally

within their rights” to confiscate students' cellphones during classes.

randomly confiscating personal property
oh the word is on the tip of my tongue
 
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57Brave said:
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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) says “a school district would be totally

within their rights” to confiscate students' cellphones during classes.

randomly confiscating personal property
oh the word is on the tip of my tongue
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I’m for this. Of course the side against personal accountability is against it.
 
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Garmel said:
Btw, Mike Pence has now been discovered to have classified documents in his possession. Like Biden he has no excuses being just a VP. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cla...mike-pences-home-turned-doj/story?id=96637301
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VP has access to classified documents. Accidentally not returning them isn't a crime. You can believe it wasn't an accident all you want but unless there's proof of intent it wouldn't even pass a grand jury. So unless Pence does what Trump did and admits to purposely removing them to keep there's no case to make. These sweeps are done at the consent of the person, that they allowed them to come in search and take anything classified shows they had no intent to retain the documents. Which is the opposite of what Trump did.
 
cajunrevenge said:
VP has access to classified documents. Accidentally not returning them isn't a crime. You can believe it wasn't an accident all you want but unless there's proof of intent it wouldn't even pass a grand jury. So unless Pence does what Trump did and admits to purposely removing them to keep there's no case to make. These sweeps are done at the consent of the person, that they allowed them to come in search and take anything classified shows they had no intent to retain the documents. Which is the opposite of what Trump did.
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It is not easy to "accidentally" steal these documents.

The mere act of taking them out of walls of Congress is intent
 
Here's the official answer from the National Archives. I don't know where Cajun is getting his info.

Are there any circumstances when I might be allowed to take classified documents home with me?
No. Classified material must be safeguarded in accordance with the requirements in E.O. 13526, Part 4, Safeguarding; and 32 CFR 2001, Subpart E, Safeguarding.
You must not remove classified material from official premises except to conduct official meetings or conferences, and the material must be returned to safe storage facilities immediately upon the conclusion of the meeting or conference. Residences are not considered official premises, and you must not remove classified material for reasons of personal convenience or keep it overnight in personal custody.

Before you libs start your clown **** in regards to Trump the prez is the exception to the rule because he can declassify.
 
Garmel said:
Here's the official answer from the National Archives. I don't know where Cajun is getting his info.

Are there any circumstances when I might be allowed to take classified documents home with me?
No. Classified material must be safeguarded in accordance with the requirements in E.O. 13526, Part 4, Safeguarding; and 32 CFR 2001, Subpart E, Safeguarding.
You must not remove classified material from official premises except to conduct official meetings or conferences, and the material must be returned to safe storage facilities immediately upon the conclusion of the meeting or conference. Residences are not considered official premises, and you must not remove classified material for reasons of personal convenience or keep it overnight in personal custody.

Before you libs start your clown **** in regards to Trump the prez is the exception to the rule because he can declassify.
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Not only can presidents declassify but Trump issued a formal declassification order on the documents he took.

That is why the charges were not that the documents were classified but that they had classified markings. Important distinction to anyone who is actually paying attention.
 
Garmel said:
The only thing that might save Biden is that we do overclassify everything.
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Well he would be lucky becasue there are lots of reasons why the Biden Crime Family would benefit from taking classified information. And of course they don't have the visitors logs. SHOCKING!!!
 
cajunrevenge said:
VP has access to classified documents. Accidentally not returning them isn't a crime. You can believe it wasn't an accident all you want but unless there's proof of intent it wouldn't even pass a grand jury. So unless Pence does what Trump did and admits to purposely removing them to keep there's no case to make. These sweeps are done at the consent of the person, that they allowed them to come in search and take anything classified shows they had no intent to retain the documents. Which is the opposite of what Trump did.
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Garmel said:
Here's the official answer from the National Archives. I don't know where Cajun is getting his info.

Are there any circumstances when I might be allowed to take classified documents home with me?
No. Classified material must be safeguarded in accordance with the requirements in E.O. 13526, Part 4, Safeguarding; and 32 CFR 2001, Subpart E, Safeguarding.
You must not remove classified material from official premises except to conduct official meetings or conferences, and the material must be returned to safe storage facilities immediately upon the conclusion of the meeting or conference. Residences are not considered official premises, and you must not remove classified material for reasons of personal convenience or keep it overnight in personal custody.

Before you libs start your clown **** in regards to Trump the prez is the exception to the rule because he can declassify.
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That aged well.
 
thethe said:
Not only can presidents declassify but Trump issued a formal declassification order on the documents he took.

That is why the charges were not that the documents were classified but that they had classified markings. Important distinction to anyone who is actually paying attention.
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Exactly
 
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