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sturg33 said:
I don't even follow Pedro on twitter. every now and then I will see something he posts.

do you consider your opinions "material?"

My "material" is supporting a clear conservative upgrade as my preferred choice. We have records to go - 4 years of DT as President.. .6 years of RDS as governor. One has been substantially better than the other.
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Again making absurd comparisons to RDS being hadned the keys to a RED state that has been on the upswing for decades while Trump was handed a ****ty condition country with a divided government since many R's hated him and what he represented.

But I don't expect you to understand higher level thinking lately.

Lets see what happens with Florida now that real estate prices are out of control and insurance companies are exiting en masse. Something tells me that RDS record in 4 years won't be as 'glowing' as it is now.
 
sturg33 said:
that's great and he should have defended them.

Ron DeSantis did as well



Nothing in that video is anti-gay.

It's a start contrast of Trump embracing the tranny cult and RDS standing up to it
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Its a critique of Trumps defense of various issues - One of which was the defense of the people slain in the Pulse nightclub shooting.

But don't believe me - Look at the actions of the Desantis campaign. They did everything possible to play it off like they didn't create the ad. Ask yourself why that is.
 
thethe said:
1. Lets try to win a national election by not pushing a charging issue that will galvanize Democrat voters and result in legalized abortions nationally. Sturg thinks somehow a good strategy is to push some of the most extreme abortion laws while at the same time talks about 'electability'

2. I would be appauled at Trump continuing his policies that resulted in a period of the highest level of peace in decades? LOLOLOL

3. The 'Alphabet Mob' are the T's. YOu know it I know it everyone knows it. But apparently we can't defend gay people against being slain while they are partying? Weird position if you are trying to win a national election.
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1. we've been over this ad nauseum... you don't want elected republicans to use their power to save babies because it might hurt you in a future election. spineless, cowardly, weak... evil - frankly. your putting politics over the lives of children. I've asked you three times now - you refuse to answer... ill ask a 4th. is your position that signing the anti-abortion legislation which has resulted in tens of thousands of babies being saved a strategic mistake?

2. well trump's policies while he was in office was to arm Ukraine. Since he left, Putin has invaded. And Trump is on record as doubling down the Biden policy. Do you believe the Biden policy is correct?

3. What the **** are you talking about? Who is not defending murdered victims?
 
thethe said:
Its a critique of Trumps defense of various issues - One of which was the defense of the people slain in the Pulse nightclub shooting.

But don't believe me - Look at the actions of the Desantis campaign. They did everything possible to play it off like they didn't create the ad. Ask yourself why that is.
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I'm not part of the DeSantis campaign... I barely know of 2 people who are involved in the campaign... what are they doing?

that video doesn't bother me in the least.Trump was very proud to support the tranny cult. he's a big fan of ken Jenner. he wants us to leave bud light alone.

if that's your fighter for these religious zealots than so be it. I choose an upgrade
 
sturg33 said:
1. we've been over this ad nauseum... you don't want elected republicans to use their power to save babies because it might hurt you in a future election. spineless, cowardly, weak... evil - frankly. your putting politics over the lives of children. I've asked you three times now - you refuse to answer... ill ask a 4th. is your position that signing the anti-abortion legislation which has resulted in tens of thousands of babies being saved a strategic mistake?

2. well trump's policies while he was in office was to arm Ukraine. Since he left, Putin has invaded. And Trump is on record as doubling down the Biden policy. Do you believe the Biden policy is correct?

3. What the **** are you talking about? Who is not defending murdered victims?
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1. Elected state republicans should absolutey exert their power (THAT TRUMP HELPED THEM GET). But if you are running for national office you are basically giving all the fuel to your opponents to crush you in a national election. Its strange to me how you can't seem to grasp this basic concept.

2. Bidens policy is arming Ukraine while disouraging peace talks and coming from a legacy administration that overthrew the peoples will in Ukraine because they were too friendly to Russia. But sure - lets compare the two as if you don't know the different.

3. Well making an attack ad about how trump defended them would make me believe that the Desantis campaign doesn't think they are worth defending. Why else would they include that section in the attack ad critcizing him for his positions on this issue?
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not part of the DeSantis campaign... I barely know of 2 people who are involved in the campaign... what are they doing?

that video doesn't bother me in the least.Trump was very proud to support the tranny cult. he's a big fan of ken Jenner. he wants us to leave bud light alone.

if that's your fighter for these religious zealots than so be it. I choose an upgrade
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There was a time when Sturg said adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. So like the MIC you have sold yourself out I suppose?

Trump was the FIRST to go after indoctrination of our children. Desantis jumped on because he iether believed in it as well or thiought it was a political winner. But make no mistake - it was Trump who started this narrative.
 
thethe said:
1. Elected state republicans should absolutey exert their power (THAT TRUMP HELPED THEM GET). But if you are running for national office you are basically giving all the fuel to your opponents to crush you in a national election. Its strange to me how you can't seem to grasp this basic concept.

2. Bidens policy is arming Ukraine while disouraging peace talks and coming from a legacy administration that overthrew the peoples will in Ukraine because they were too friendly to Russia. But sure - lets compare the two as if you don't know the different.

3. Well making an attack ad about how trump defended them would make me believe that the Desantis campaign doesn't think they are worth defending. Why else would they include that section in the attack ad critcizing him for his positions on this issue?
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1. so your position is that Ron DeSantis - elected as governor - should have vetoed the baby-saving bill passed by the legislature so he had a better chance to win a presidential race in a couple years?

2. Biden's policy is arming Ukraine to the teeth. Trump just said he'd do the same thing. I don't see a difference other than Trump wants to send MOAR

3. my guess is whoever made the video were looking for clips of Trump saying how much he loved LGBTQ and so he/she put that in. there is nothing anti-gay about the video. but it was nice of this random person to include that one section to give you a defense of your boy slobbering the tranny cult
 
thethe said:
There was a time when Sturg said adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. So like the MIC you have sold yourself out I suppose?

Trump was the FIRST to go after indoctrination of our children. Desantis jumped on because he iether believed in it as well or thiought it was a political winner. But make no mistake - it was Trump who started this narrative.
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what is it that you're imagining im "selling out" this time?

The MIC thrived under President Trump. It's thriving today. He did nothing to reverse its size, or even slow down its growth
 
thethe said:
Yes they want the man that flipped the demographics in the country and they had to pull out all the stops and only “won” by 50k votes.

Sure sure sturg.
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They want the man they have beaten for 7 years to win so they can beat him again and probably throw him in prison while doing it.

Desantis is much more dangerous to the communist agenda than Trump
 
sturg33 said:
They want the man they have beaten for 7 years to win so they can beat him again and probably throw him in prison while doing it.

Desantis is much more dangerous to the communist agenda than Trump
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Yup. Makes sense they want the person that won the rust belt for the first time in decades while having to cheat to win.

Makes perfect sense over the guy that has so many inflammatory positions that would energize the left more than anyone would. Not to mention the fact that 5-10m trump voters aren’t even traditional republicans and there is likely significant bleed out that wouldn’t vote for desantis.

Makes absolutely zero sense. Desantis may not even finish second in the final tally of the Republican primary but he is DEFINITELY the bigger threat nationally. You’re basically Bill Mitchell at this point.
 
They don't exactly hide it either. But I do get a chuckle when you bring MSM stories to board that are bashing him. Good times

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Yeah these are definitely experts!

Let’s also ignore that his campaign is a disaster but that DEFINITELY get better on a national scale.
 
sturg33 said:
They don't exactly hide it either. But I do get a chuckle when you bring MSM stories to board that are bashing him. Good times

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You were the one that made the point months ago that trumps staffing turnover was an issue or did you forget. I told you then that desantis was just as bad if not worse. And then you shut up.
 
thethe said:
You were the one that made the point months ago that trumps staffing turnover was an issue or did you forget. I told you then that desantis was just as bad if not worse. And then you shut up.
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My issue with Trump is betrays and throws everyone who ever worked for him under the bus, and now he can't get anyone competent to work for him. That's why he elevates piece of **** Alex B instead of a sane non lying competent person. Hell he's having trouble finding lawyers these days. Nobody in their right mind should work for him lest they be stabbed in the back two weeks from now

If RDS has staffing issues its at least done behind closed doors and not a public himiliation of how poor his hiring judgement is.

I didn't click on the MSM article you posted. Do you believe them to be trust worthy and accurate going forward?
 
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