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Yeah these are definitely experts!

Let’s also ignore that his campaign is a disaster but that DEFINITELY get better on a national scale.

1. What do you mean by "experts"? The video is 6 min and you posted 1 min after I posted so I assume you didn't bother watching

2. Why is RDS campaign a disaster, specifically? From what I can tell he is raising more money than your boy and has an actual ground operation in the first few states... and isn't hiding in his golf club but actually doing events and connecting with voters. That this hasn't translated into national polling numbers doesn't really bother or surprise me.
 
1. What do you mean by "experts"? The video is 6 min and you posted 1 min after I posted so I assume you didn't bother watching

2. Why is RDS campaign a disaster, specifically? From what I can tell he is raising more money than your boy and has an actual ground operation in the first few states... and isn't hiding in his golf club but actually doing events and connecting with voters. That this hasn't translated into national polling numbers doesn't really bother or surprise me.

I’ve seen that video before as it’s the last ditch hope to appeal to voters because he’s turned off so many.

Ah yes the phantom “ground game” that can never be quantified and yet he is sinking in the polls so I guess it’s working.
 
I’ve seen that video before as it’s the last ditch hope to appeal to voters because he’s turned off so many.

Ah yes the phantom “ground game” that can never be quantified and yet he is sinking in the polls so I guess it’s working.

What do you mean by experts? That's 6 minutes of leftist influences and MSM media shows explaining how much more dangerous RDS is bc he's not incompetent

Are MSM outlets trustworthy going forward do you think?
 
1. so your position is that Ron DeSantis - elected as governor - should have vetoed the baby-saving bill passed by the legislature so he had a better chance to win a presidential race in a couple years?

I will note for the record that this is the 4th thethe has refused to answer this very simple and direct question
 
Gavin Newsom, Andrew Cuomo, now Ted Lieu all praising Trump for his covid policies

The left loves Trump and you're damn sure they want him to win again so they can beat him yet again

We can run it back in 2028!

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Meanwhile.... thethe is a big fan of polls all the sudden... I don't think they matter much now but he does.

The general election poll trends for Trump vs Biden do not look good. And trumps own pollster has him losing to Biden (with desantis tying)

We can walk into the slaughter or we can win... the cult has.made their choice

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Meanwhile.... thethe is a big fan of polls all the sudden... I don't think they matter much now but he does.

The general election poll trends for Trump vs Biden do not look good. And trumps own pollster has him losing to Biden (with desantis tying)

We can walk into the slaughter or we can win... the cult has.made their choice

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“Trumps own pollster” spoken like at true desantis influencer.

And those are districts mostly not in swing states. And as usual the polls have traditionally always UNDERSTATED trump support. Continue to not understand any of this sturg. Just like I told you that you would misinterpret the margin of desantis victory and you never listened.
 
The cult! The cult! The cult!

Again, you can find posts from Goldy for the last 8 years that mirror your current garbage.
 
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Mind you I don’t think desantis himself is a bad person and wants this but when you don’t have money and take big donor money (book deal and campaign donations that are primarily big donor) you don’t have an option.

Like other things in the past I’m accused of being a lunatic and over time people realize my instincts were right. I’ve retired so many people in this forum and it would be a shame if people I’ve mostly agreed with in the past did the same. But make no mistake there will be a point in the not too distant future where you guys will realize I was right all along.
 
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It was always about running out the clock. Anyone with working brain cells and rudimentary math skills know that trump won in a landslide and will do so again in 24.
 
“Trumps own pollster” spoken like at true desantis influencer.

And those are districts mostly not in swing states. And as usual the polls have traditionally always UNDERSTATED trump support. Continue to not understand any of this sturg. Just like I told you that you would misinterpret the margin of desantis victory and you never listened.

I need a flow chart on when polls are prescriptive, and when they are garbage.
 
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Desantis would get embarrassed at this point.

Who are the never trump consultants he reference? are there any specifics?

you once told me was being advised by Paul Ryan and Karl Rove but that of course was nonsense
 
The cult! The cult! The cult!

Again, you can find posts from Goldy for the last 8 years that mirror your current garbage.

when you can be presented with dozens (hundreds) of examples of trump's failure and you excuse every single one of them away... that is cult-like behavior.

you get mad at RDS for things that you make up in your head, but when Trump hires Karl Rove to advise on his campaign, or when he takes loans from George Soros, or when he expands the military budget, or when he writes books with the same publisher, or when he says he will arm Ukraine to the teeth, or when he still pushes vaccines, or when he says he made no mistakes, or when he says Gavin Newsom is great, or when he endorsed Paul Ryan endlessly, or when he whipped votes for Rona McDaniel, or when he says to leave Disney alone, or when he says leave Bud Light alone, or when he says anti-abortion bills are harsh, or when he whipped votes for McCarthy, or when he refused to financially support maga 2022 candidares, or when he said Chris Wray isn't a bad pick, or when he ****, well that's just fine and dandy

***I could literally go on and on and on and on.
 
I need a flow chart on when polls are prescriptive, and when they are garbage.

There is no flow chart - There is just basic logic when you move past headlines and look into the underlying data.

That is where you fall behind.
 
when you can be presented with dozens (hundreds) of examples of trump's failure and you excuse every single one of them away... that is cult-like behavior.

you get mad at RDS for things that you make up in your head, but when Trump hires Karl Rove to advise on his campaign, or when he takes loans from George Soros, or when he expands the military budget, or when he writes books with the same publisher, or when he says he will arm Ukraine to the teeth, or when he still pushes vaccines, or when he says he made no mistakes, or when he says Gavin Newsom is great, or when he endorsed Paul Ryan endlessly, or when he whipped votes for Rona McDaniel, or when he says to leave Disney alone, or when he says leave Bud Light alone, or when he says anti-abortion bills are harsh, or when he whipped votes for McCarthy, or when he refused to financially support maga 2022 candidares, or when he said Chris Wray isn't a bad pick, or when he ****, well that's just fine and dandy

***I could literally go on and on and on and on.

HUNDREDS! That type of statement is cult like behavior. Maybe you can start sending me charts of all of his lies and completely your descent into full blown TDS just like Goldy used it.

All those items are a bunch of nonsense because you refuse to look at any context and the fact that people with no money are easily purchased because they can't say no. In addition, none of those things were known at the time but since TRUMP EXPOSED these things its so easy to go SEE HE IS AN IDIOT! Just like Desantis saying stupid things like he would have fired Fauchi! But at the same time he pushed all the same measures for almost all of 2020.

But your rants are very similar to what we have seen since 2016 so its nothing new.

Why don't you continue to tell me how a stolen election is Trumps fault. Or a fake russian collusion investigation is Trumps fault. And you wonder why Desantis is now down to the mid teens in national polling.

But sure - HE IS THE GUY TO WIN!
 
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Who are the never trump consultants he reference? are there any specifics?

you once told me was being advised by Paul Ryan and Karl Rove but that of course was nonsense

Its nonsense because you haven't seen a piece of paper that says its true. Similar to when I would tell the whole board that all of these fake stories were fake but because all that was in front of their faces was that it was true they couldn't believe it.
 
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