2024 Field

[sturg33]

Majority of the Republican party base begs to differ.

But I'm aware the educated/successful portion of the base has a bigger split amongst those that want the same old same old as opposed to where we were in Q4 19 before the deep state let loose on the biggest coup in World History.

if the majority of their republican base wants an unelected bureaucrat to tell them they are non essential and their business must be closes to enrich the Amazon's and Was Marts, then count me in as a differing part of the base.

Trump failed to protect us from that fate. Now we get 20+% inflation and mail in voting for dessert

 

[Tapate50]

At some point thethe - the facts and actions are what they are and serve as his record.

I see that you are willing to ignore that but not everyone is. Context be damned it was his record

 

[sturg33]

No - It was not known that R's couldn't even be trusted. After 8 years of Obama a reasonable person would make the deduction is was the apparatus he built. But alas, it will take more time to flush out the R's that don't care about their voters.

So when he campaigned on draining the swamp, who was he referring to? And who did he successfully get rid of?

 

[thethe]

At some point thethe - the facts and actions are what they are and serve as his record.

I see that you are willing to ignore that but not everyone is. Context be damned it was his record

The facts of him being the best president in decades?

The facts that he had to endure unprecendent attacks/slander that impaired his ability to run the country?

How can you guys ignore all the context and forget about all the shenanigans he had to deal with?

 

[sturg33]

At some point thethe - the facts and actions are what they are and serve as his record.

I see that you are willing to ignore that but not everyone is. Context be damned it was his record

Results on the field and all that jazz.

Maybe thethe is right... and HE JUST DIDNT KNOW!!

that's failure

 

[thethe]

So when he campaigned on draining the swamp, who was he referring to? And who did he successfully get rid of?

Ok this will be the second time that I said the swamp was not gotten rid of. How many more times will you ask me? SHould I keep a tally?

 

[thethe]

if the majority of their republican base wants an unelected bureaucrat to tell them they are non essential and their business must be closes to enrich the Amazon's and Was Marts, then count me in as a differing part of the base.

Trump failed to protect us from that fate. Now we get 20+% inflation and mail in voting for dessert

RDS did the same things but with a heavier hand until he "Course Corrected". But you sure do believe the next new thing he will get right.

 

[sturg33]

Ok this will be the second time that I said the swamp was not gotten rid of. How many more times will you ask me? SHould I keep a tally?

but you claim it wasn't drained because HE DIDNT KNOW

but he clearly did know. he campaigned on it.

knowing that he did know, it is abundantly clear he failed. why does he deserve a second chance?

 

[thethe]

but you claim it wasn't drained because HE DIDNT KNOW

but he clearly did know. he campaigned on it.

knowing that he did know, it is abundantly clear he failed. why does he deserve a second chance?

Yes he didn't know how pervasive it was - Are you actually this obtuse? Did anyone think someone like Paul Ryan was part of the swamp? How about Chris Christie referring Chris Wray?

Maybe Sturg knew!

 

[sturg33]

RDS did the same things but with a heavier hand until he "Course Corrected". But you sure do believe the next new thing he will get right.

RDS failed by blindly listening to the instructions of the leader of his party.

after understanding the data, he pivoted aggressively.

Trump and Fauci got mad at him and pressured him to stop. The MSM killed him daily for being a mass murderer. Unlike Trump, he didn't bend over to the pressure.

He says to this day his biggest regret was shutting down... acknowledging his mistakes and learning from them.

Trump will not get my vote until he does the same.


check the dates

 

[thethe]

RDS failed by blindly listening to the instructions of the leader of his party.

after understanding the data, he pivoted aggressively.

Trump and Fauci got mad at him and pressured him to stop. The MSM killed him daily for being a mass murderer. Unlike Trump, he didn't bend over to the pressure.

He says to this day his biggest regret was shutting down... acknowledging his mistakes and learning from them.

Trump will not get my vote until he does the same.


check the dates

I can show you dates of articles well past that which had him tightening restrictions and still pushing the vax.

When did RDS wisen up? I'd like a date so I can show you an example of when he still instituted mandates.

 

[sturg33]

Yes he didn't know how pervasive it was - Are you actually this obtuse? Did anyone think someone like Paul Ryan was part of the swamp? How about Chris Christie referring Chris Wray?

Maybe Sturg knew!

he campaigned on draining the swamp. So he must have been referring to something, right?

I'm asking you for one single action that he did to do something about it.

when he was asked... he said he fired Comey.

Who he replaced with Wray.

Anything else?

 

[thethe]

he campaigned on draining the swamp. So he must have been referring to something, right?

I'm asking you for one single action that he did to do something about it.

when he was asked... he said he fired Comey.

Who he replaced with Wray.

Anything else?

You're just going to completely ignore the Russia Collusion hoax aren't you? Pretend it didn't happen? Pretend it didn't impact his ability to get stuff done?

If that is the direction you want to go then fine you have every right to. It would just be hysterically wrong and no prupose for us to continue this discussion.

 

[sturg33]

I can show you dates of articles well past that which had him tightening restrictions and still pushing the vax.

When did RDS wisen up? I'd like a date so I can show you an example of when he still instituted mandates.

I would say some time in between April 1 and the election... where Trump was STILL pimping Fauci

As for when RDS made his pivot... I don't know... I should go reference the covid thread where you and were praising him daily and he was getting attacked relentlessly to get an idea of it

 

[sturg33]

You're just going to completely ignore the Russia Collusion hoax aren't you? Pretend it didn't happen? Pretend it didn't impact his ability to get stuff done?

If that is the direction you want to go then fine you have every right to. It would just be hysterically wrong and no prupose for us to continue this discussion.

I'm not ignoring anything.

He had full control of government for two years after his election.,

Can you name one action he took to help drain the swamp?

 

[thethe]

I'm not ignoring anything.

He had full control of government for two years after his election.,

Can you name one action he took to help drain the swamp?

You are ignoring it by your absurd question without context. Thats the direction you've decided on going.

Its these types of arguments, that are widely shared within the RDS campaign/surrogates, that have completely turned off the electorate because the people remember what 2016-2020 was like. You are PURPOSEFULLY forgetting.

 

[thethe]

I would say some time in between April 1 and the election... where Trump was STILL pimping Fauci

As for when RDS made his pivot... I don't know... I should go reference the covid thread where you and were praising him daily and he was getting attacked relentlessly to get an idea of it

I never said that RDS didn't 'Course Correct' eventually. So not sure what the purpsoe was of your last statement.

And I've also said that Trump made mistakes with his handling of COVID but as usual that isn't enough for you.

But get me that date whenever you have time.

 

[sturg33]

Quick look here and you and I were praising RDS as early as May 2020. But I did not live there so I don't know when his full pivot came. I'm sure more liberal areas of the state imposed lockdowns throughout the year.

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The 2024 republican filed is absolutely loaded. DeSantis has run is state masterfully.

Experts have zero clue what they are talking about. It’s all about implementing measures to facilitate the government taking more control.

Thank god we have courageous patriots lien Desantis to show the world the right way to live.

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Think about how many lives were saved in Florida because DeSantis won.

Imagine if all our govenors were as capable as DeSantis?

We might not have 50k deaths at this time.

Infection rates will spread unless locked down forever.

Shocking.

Glad DeSantis is a leader on this front. Cuomo could learn something

 

[sturg33]

You are ignoring it by your absurd question without context. Thats the direction you've decided on going.

Its these types of arguments, that are widely shared within the RDS campaign/surrogates, that have completely turned off the electorate because the people remember what 2016-2020 was like. You are PURPOSEFULLY forgetting.

It appears to me that your argument is that Trump failed because he was being attacked by the deep state.

And I agree. I want a President who isn't constantly getting outmaneuvered by political enemies.

 

[sturg33]

Trump is a ****ing loser and is now lying once again about someone who he is supposedly crushing. The idea that RDS is working with the DOJ to take out Trump is laughably insane.

Leave it to Alex to push this nonsense.

I now understand where thethe got this insane idea.

What a joke this cult is

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