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sturg33 said:
This is my favorite thing about arguing with you.

You ignore the 20 great things and Lazer focus into one thing to "prove" your point.

I don't know what has happened with the vaccine commission but I'll look into it.

What would you like to see come from that? Re you worried it might implicate Trump?
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No - I WANT AN INQUIRY.

But in reality what happened was that the donors/PR teams got together and thought we need to hit Trump on COVID. Lets announce a vaccine inquiry panel to see if we can continue our momentum but in realty they never had any desire to actually do one.

And his rube voters believed it.
 
thethe said:
Nationally very few people knew about RDS. Came off a big election victory and was having support wtihin R's of 40-50% depending on the ball and almost 48% nationally.

Now he is polling in the low teens in the GOP and in the high 30's-low 40's nationally.

As people get to know him his support dwindles. The trend lines are the trend lines and even the donors know they need another conduit that can actually win the GOP primaryh.
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If the GOP decides they prefer an entertainer over a competent get **** done leader then they have only themselves to blame for an 8th consecutive year of losses
 
nsacpi said:
Don't think so. The U.S. government does not require Americans to relinquish any other citizenship they hold. There is no reason to collect such data. Some other countries do.
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When you apply for citizenship they will get your information if you have other citizenship (when you traveled into the country).

If you are naturalized then you are only a citizen of one country.

Is there an example where the governemtn wouldn't know?
 
thethe said:
No - I WANT AN INQUIRY.

But in reality what happened was that the donors/PR teams got together and thought we need to hit Trump on COVID. Lets announce a vaccine inquiry panel to see if we can continue our momentum but in realty they never had any desire to actually do one.

And his rube voters believed it.
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Maybe.

I don't feel he has gone hard enough on Trump regarding covid.

It would be my number one focus.

A shame Trump is too scared to show up to face those questions though
 
sturg33 said:
If the GOP decides they prefer an entertainer over a competent get **** done leader then they have only themselves to blame for an 8th consecutive year of losses
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Yeah - They should definitely go to RDS who won't get the Obama/Trump voter and then cap out at 65M votes.

That will go over well nationally and down ballots.

BRILLIANT!
 
sturg33 said:
Maybe.

I don't feel he has gone hard enough on Trump regarding covid.

It would be my number one focus.

A shame Trump is too scared to show up to face those questions though
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Well at least you are saying maybe.

Did you see the information when they focussed group messaging they saw that 70% of the GOP thoguth the idea of 'Trump lockdowns' were bull****?

Because people remember history and they don't play Monday MOrning QB.
 
thethe said:
Well at least you are saying maybe.

Did you see the information when they focussed group messaging they saw that 70% of the GOP thoguth the idea of 'Trump lockdowns' were bull****?

Because people remember history and they don't play Monday MOrning QB.
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No didn't see that.

Don't care either.

Trump betrayed us. That is a fact. That you are so forgiving of someone who hasn't expressed an ounce of regret is disappointing. No reason for him to be better next time.

Sadly there won't be a next time
 
thethe said:
When you apply for citizenship they will get your information if you have other citizenship (when you traveled into the country).

If you are naturalized then you are only a citizen of one country.

Is there an example where the governemtn wouldn't know?
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Becoming a naturalized citizen does not involve relinquishing other citizenships.
 
thethe said:
Yeah - They should definitely go to RDS who won't get the Obama/Trump voter and then cap out at 65M votes.

That will go over well nationally and down ballots.

BRILLIANT!
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I know this is your go to line but the party under Trump has done nothing but lose since 2016.

Literally across the board. Lost the presidency. Lost the senate. Lost congressional seats. Lost state governors. Lost state legislators.

I know I know. It wasn't his fault. Nothing ever is
 
sturg33 said:
No didn't see that.

Don't care either.

Trump betrayed us. That is a fact. That you are so forgiving of someone who hasn't expressed an ounce of regret is disappointing. No reason for him to be better next time.

Sadly there won't be a next time
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"Betrayed us" - So dramatic.

Did the globalists & Deep State overwhelm his administration. No question about it. When you've been built up for decades you get pretty strong. Lets see what happens when Trump wins in 24 and now has a group of loyalists and not just treasonous GOP cowards.
 
sturg33 said:
I know this is your go to line but the party under Trump has done nothing but lose since 2016.

Literally across the board. Lost the presidency. Lost the senate. Lost congressional seats. Lost state governors. Lost state legislators.

I know I know. It wasn't his fault. Nothing ever is
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ITS ALL TRUMPS FAULT!!!!!

Lets just give the keys to someone that won't be able to crack 65M voters. Sounds like a smart strategy.
 
thethe said:
"Betrayed us" - So dramatic.

Did the globalists & Deep State overwhelm his administration. No question about it. When you've been built up for decades you get pretty strong. Lets see what happens when Trump wins in 24 and now has a group of loyalists and not just treasonous GOP cowards.
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I can't think of a better way to describe it.

Locked down the country. funded mail in balloting. millions of people lost jobs... kids out of school. Printed $4T before leaving office to deal with the aftermath. Trump was on national television defending each of those things.

if that's not betrayal, what is?
 
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The orders have been sent. Cna't talk about 2020 election steal and can't talk about the fedsurrection.

Bad for business.
 
sturg33 said:
I can't think of a better way to describe it.

Locked down the country. funded mail in balloting. millions of people lost jobs... kids out of school. Printed $4T before leaving office to deal with the aftermath. Trump was on national television defending each of those things.

if that's not betrayal, what is?
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"LOCKED DOWN THE COUNTRY"

wooo boy

This was of course after you contantly praised Trumps handling of COVID in real time. I know you've found Jesus.
 
sturg33 said:
no I was very clear. it's not his fault. nothing ever is
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No No No - You are saying its all Trumps fault by not acknowledging the unprecidented actions that took place under his presidency.

Some was of course Trumps fault and if you want I can find you posts from the last six years where I said Trump was wrong.

But now - you want to act like Trump was a terrible president and that COVID lockdowns were all his fault and the 2020 election steal was all his fault.

Its a joke.
 
thethe said:
"LOCKED DOWN THE COUNTRY"

wooo boy

This was of course after you contantly praised Trumps handling of COVID in real time. I know you've found Jesus.
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I understand it's not defensible

but the record is the record

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Oh - I'm aware of the things you've presented in the past. But thanks for posting them for the n-th time

I can't believe that Trump wanted to protect Americans in the face of a once in a generation pandemic that people thought had an IFR 1-2%.

Show me what he was saying in June/July/etc....

ALMOST EVERYONE was in favor of shutdowns in late March early April (Still was the wrong decision).

And then you still didn't explain to me how Trump was going to prevent shutdowns in the states with Gov's that were already hell bent on shutting down. You know - A little issue with your arugment.
 
thethe said:
No No No - You are saying its all Trumps fault by not acknowledging the unprecidented actions that took place under his presidency.

Some was of course Trumps fault and if you want I can find you posts from the last six years where I said Trump was wrong.

But now - you want to act like Trump was a terrible president and that COVID lockdowns were all his fault and the 2020 election steal was all his fault.

Its a joke.
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actually what I am saying is your argument that RDS won't be able to win elections doesn't carry a lot of weight with me when I have 7 years of election losses under the leadership of Trump to compare it to
 
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