2024 Field

Dude Gary Youngkin just brought out the low propensity voter. So did someone no one has ever heard of in Columbia, SC, and a bunch of others across the country. Anyone inclined to vote for a Republican is motivated. A large majority of those normally on the fence are motivated to vote for Republicans. All nominating Trump will do is turn off a lot of those, and motivate absolutely everyone on the other side to vote.
 
Dude Gary Youngkin just brought out the low propensity voter. So did someone no one has ever heard of in Columbia, SC, and a bunch of others across the country. Anyone inclined to vote for a Republican is motivated. A large majority of those normally on the fence are motivated to vote for Republicans. All nominating Trump will do is turn off a lot of those, and motivate absolutely everyone on the other side to vote.

And Gary Younkin is now allowing counties to do vaccine mandates.
 
Dude Gary Youngkin just brought out the low propensity voter. So did someone no one has ever heard of in Columbia, SC, and a bunch of others across the country. Anyone inclined to vote for a Republican is motivated. A large majority of those normally on the fence are motivated to vote for Republicans. All nominating Trump will do is turn off a lot of those, and motivate absolutely everyone on the other side to vote.

100%
 
Youngkin turned more right as the campaign went along.

He was carried by concerned parents speaking about CRT.

It wasn't about 'being in the middle'.
 
Dude Gary Youngkin just brought out the low propensity voter. So did someone no one has ever heard of in Columbia, SC, and a bunch of others across the country. Anyone inclined to vote for a Republican is motivated. A large majority of those normally on the fence are motivated to vote for Republicans. All nominating Trump will do is turn off a lot of those, and motivate absolutely everyone on the other side to vote.

This. The worst thing the Republicans could do would be to nominate Trump. The base isn't going to miss the chance to vote against Biden or Harris. You're 100% right that Republican chances in 2024 will likely depend on moderates that don't like Trump voting Republican and low propensity Democrats not being brought to the polls to vote against Trump.

Democrats really need to be hoping Trump gets the nomination.
 
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You guys don’t actually think the country flipped this hard this fast do you?
 
Trump losing in the primaries would be ideal for Democrats because he doesnt lose he can only be cheated. He would attempt to take his ball and go home and try to take his base with him. Enough probably would to ensure Biden wins reelection just so Trump can say "I would have won if not cheated in the primary". The absolute worst scenario is Trump runs and gets the Republican nomination because he is going to win in 2024 by hook or by crook. His gaslighting campaign on election fraud has been successful enough that if he loses he will get the state legislatures to overrule the vote in their states. I am sure the Trump tards here will cheer that on but it would be a constitutional crisis without a doubt.
 
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I don't get Cotton's point?

Chicago is 1/5 of the population of Illinois. Literally 20-33% of the states population lives in Chicago proper. Cook County is basically half the population of chicago. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin Metro represents almost 8 million of Illinois 12.5 million population.

So yes Chicago Metro has the most seats, 12 of the states 18 by my quick reading. Considering it's basically 75% of the State's population that seems more thna fair to me.

Not that I expect Tom Cotton to know anything about a city.
 
I don't get Cotton's point?

Chicago is 1/5 of the population of Illinois. Literally 20-33% of the states population lives in Chicago proper. Cook County is basically half the population of chicago. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin Metro represents almost 8 million of Illinois 12.5 million population.

So yes Chicago Metro has the most seats, 12 of the states 18 by my quick reading. Considering it's basically 75% of the State's population that seems more thna fair to me.

Not that I expect Tom Cotton to know anything about a city.





That wasnt the point of the graphic.
 
The $3 billion earmarked by the House Agriculture Committee would be doled out to state, local or tribal governments for “tree planting and related activities to increase community tree canopy and associated societal and climate co-benefits, with a priority for projects that increase tree equity.”

According to the conservation non-profit American Forests, “tree equity” refers to the idea that there should be “enough trees in specific neighborhoods or municipalities for everyone to experience the health, economic and climate benefits that trees provide.”

“Trees are more than scenery for our cities,” American Forests says on its website. “They are critical infrastructure that every person in every neighborhood deserves — a basic right that we must secure.”

https://nypost.com/2021/09/27/biden-dems-3-5t-bill-includes-money-for-tree-equity-bias-training/
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The $3 billion would be an "investment in planting equitable tree cover across our cities as protection against climate-fueled extreme heat and air pollution," the statement said. "This new federal funding can feed the growing movement in cities across America, from Tucson to Boston, to make tree equity part of their push to equitably protect every neighborhood from climate change. This comes as some projections show we could see as many as 100,000 deaths per year in the U.S. from extreme heat before the end of the century."

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...quity-part-35t-bill-targets-low-income-areas/


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Why Does Urban Tree Canopy Matter?
As climate change threatens the world with unpredictable weather patterns, including heat waves and poor air quality, these underserved neighborhoods with low Tree Equity Scores can experience the "urban heat island effect."

The effect forms small pockets of dangerously hot temperatures that bring up health issues, including heatstroke and heat-related deaths, to these low-income communities. The heat pocket can be up to 7 degrees Fahrenheit (-14 degrees Celsius) hotter than the rest of the city.

"Trees cool down the whole planet," Levine says. "But people don't often think about how it cools down their own neighborhood."

"We had a test on the Atlanta BeltLine — the center of the BeltLine was 22 degrees F (12 degrees C) higher than underneath a tree that was just about 15 yards (2.7 meters) away from the center of the path. This shows you how much places can heat up when you don't have shade."

Trees Atlanta is doing its part by working with various metro Atlanta municipalities to bring more shade trees to people's yards and sidewalks. Since its founding in 1985, Trees Atlanta has planted more than 140,000 trees. The urban tree canopy in Atlanta varies largely by zoning and land use, but neighborhoods can take charge of that. Through the nonprofit's front yard free tree program, for example, residents can receive up to three shade trees in their front yard by just submitting a request.

"​​In Atlanta, we're a little different than some other cities. It's more about where you're located versus necessarily your economic levels," Levine says. Often, mixed-income areas like Downtown, Midtown, Old Fourth Ward and Summerhill have low tree coverage. While to the Northwest, you start seeing higher tree coverage.

Unfortunately, that's not the case with other cities where the income gap is more glaring, Levine says. "We believe that everyone should be able to walk somewhere under the shade."

The Tree Equity Score alerts cities of tree inequality and can also function as a data point to enact policies and requirements within the city. They can pass laws that protect existing trees and require new ones to be planted.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/conservation/issues/tree-equity-score.htm

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we could go on for days

not even to mention the trees must be bought locally and planted by wage earners
sounds like it will in fact, pay for itself
 
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I am glad to vote for people who didn't want to print more money for tree equity.

And why would I support price caps on anything? Haven't you learned by now that capping prices always leads to dreadful result
 
I am glad to vote for people who didn't want to print more money for tree equity.

And why would I support price caps on anything? Haven't you learned by now that capping prices always leads to dreadful result

“The first lesson of economics is scarcity. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.” - Tom Sowell
 
I don't get Cotton's point?

Chicago is 1/5 of the population of Illinois. Literally 20-33% of the states population lives in Chicago proper. Cook County is basically half the population of chicago. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin Metro represents almost 8 million of Illinois 12.5 million population.

So yes Chicago Metro has the most seats, 12 of the states 18 by my quick reading. Considering it's basically 75% of the State's population that seems more thna fair to me.

Not that I expect Tom Cotton to know anything about a city.

His point was that the map is doing some crazy things to get a desired outcome, as can be seen by the crazy shapes of districts outside of Chicago.
 
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