sturg33
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Well some people are long term strategists and some have short term views to try and steal the nomination in 24.
It is what it is.
I'd still like to know why didn't RDS speak about his intentions prior to getting re-elected? You don't want to answer that because its the whole story.
sturg33
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Here's the issue. Both Trump and Vance are on record that it's a states issue - and I agree with them. They have both very clearly said the states can decide.
So some states are deciding. But you're also criticizing that action as well. If they don't do the legislation, then where do we start winning?
So your entire position is one of pro-choice being the best answer.
For starters, I'm not even sure that's true. I don't live in Florida and I don't follow RDS' daily commentary
But let's presume it is true, wouldn't you agree it was an highly strategic calculation that will make it very difficult to undo based on the legislature being ruby red??? It will take a decade to undo that, so that's 10 years+ of babies lives being saved in the 3rd biggest state in the country
sturg33
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what's telling if you're advocating for only doing conservative principles if leftist voters approve of it. Whereas I want to shove it down their throats and them tell them they're welcome for the lives being so much better.
See, Florida
Again - You twist my actual position.
I applaud RDS for doing that in Florida. Please tell me where I said otherwise.
What I did say that it effectively ruined his chances to win a national election.
I know nuance is hard for cultists but you'll get there eventually.
It is not highly unpopular and I don't think anyone thinks mass deportations means 20M people. But its awesome you're running with leftist talking points now.
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then I suppose we were very lucky JD Vance was not accomplished enough to be the decision maker of such a subject
Yeah he was too busy doing things int he real world and not effectively be a career politican. You used to like that. BUt now you have pledged fielty to RDS so you have to change.
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deporting women and children by the tens of millions will make every woman in the country hysterical. Every leftist will riot. And Romney republicans (~30% of the party) will object
the propaganda will be overwhelming.
and I hope he shoves it down their throats
(he won't though)
Tens of millions? Where do you come up with this stuff?
The hysteria and TDS are at all time levels.
sturg33
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I've no issue with JD Vance at all. But we do need politicians to advance our political causes. RDS was one of the first to do bold things the likes of which were rare before him.
What you have implied to me today is that JD Vance would have no been so bold if having the opportunity.
Good think he's in an even higher office than that, now
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what are you talking about?
haven't you been promising 20M+ deportations?
is that not "tens of millions?"
Thats because Vance is not a career politician trying to score short term points in the run up to an election.
I throw lots of numbers out there. Maybe you can share when I said I ever expected 20M people to be deported.
You'll probably be waitin gfor a while.
chop2chip
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I got that number from you to be honest
cajunrevenge
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I am glad it's someone who knows what Trump is as the VP. So after 4 more years of the clown show hopefully we can move on with a return to some bit of sanity in politics. A Kool aid drinker like MTG or Flynn inheriting the MAGA leadership post Trump is the worst nightmare. Hopefully less family members die from Trump's final term than the first term.
Then it should be easy to find a post where I said we should deport 20M people then right?