Thankfully Trump respected the constitution (lauded at the time) and left it to the states to make their ultimate decisions and didn't become what Biden was in 2021 and afterwards.
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Thankfully Trump respected the constitution (lauded at the time) and left it to the states to make their ultimate decisions and didn't become what Biden was in 2021 and afterwards.
sturg33
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The country needed big states to stand up to the madness and Florida and Georgia delivered. That paved the way for others.
There's a reason why half the country moved to Florida since 2020.
There's a reason why these two cruised to massive election victories while the rest of MAGA candidates failed
sturg33
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Other than sending in the ****ing military to enforce it... he did everything he possible could do to ensure states shut down... and then he bragged about it constantly afterward
Tapate50
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He may have respected it, but he did weigh in publicly on what they were doing as incorrect putting pressure on them to fall in line.
Never forget. #respectthescience
Yes - He expressed his belief at that time that it was better to be cautious (the wrong instinct) but he did empower the states to do what they wanted to do.
Tapate50
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When you say "empower" , you mean just sat back and didn't over step his office? For clarity sake.
Correct - Respect the constitution. I can see how you would take umbridge with a poor word choice.
sturg33
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I ask again, other than sending in the national military to enforce it... what else could he have done that's not considered "empowering the states"
He made very clear it was his call to shut it down. Bragged about it many many times. And viscously attacked Republican governors for disobeying
those republican governors won their elections in a landslide, by the way
He made very clear it was his call to shut it down. Bragged about it many many times. And viscously attacked Republican governors for disobeying
those republican governors won their elections in a landslide, by the way
Tapate50
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I am not sure how he should get any praise for "not becoming what Biden was in 2021" at all. We can remove that checkmark from his "accomplishments". Agree?
So, with hindsight as it is and what you noted on Rona at the time we can safely deduce that Trump was no friend of states opening before lord Fauci said they should. Ga\Fl opened and showed the others the way. Earning the trust and reelection votes they deserved as due reward.
As I see it- and you pointed out- him not overstepping his power is just like me sitting on my couch while the neighbors argue in their house next door. Hardly anything to appreciate.
The two govs in question were ridiculed and pressured in public for it, and came out better for going against Trump on this and getting it right. Since that point, he has never learned from that and still parrots the same narrative.
Learning is a skill.
I think Trump getting the word out on HCQ and other therapeutics early on was a big positive. Wouldn't you agree?
I think him STARTING the narrative on fully opening up as he did with his Easter proclamation was important as well.
Sadly, once the cat was out of the bag the big leftists states were always going to stay closed.
And finally, for someone who believes the vaccines were useful for at-risk him helping drive that charge was also helpful as well.
Everyone is Monday morning QBing when at the time people had to make decisions with information they had AT THE TIME.
Its the same reason that RDS should not be lambasted for pushing the vax to everyone or that he actually did lockdown areas early on. Don't believe be I can send you multiple articles.
The overarching premise is that the CCP virus was a weapon used to defeat how Trump was changing the world and you guys are slamming him for that which is your right. The majority of the Republican party - and the new coaltion of republican voters - aren't buying what you're selling. Iowa will show that LOUDLY.
sturg33
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AT THE TIME, Trump blasted RDS and Kemp for opening. AT THE TIME, Trump bragged wanted schools remain closed in the Fall. AT THE TIME, Trump bragged Fauci's support of his obedience during the election.
And in 2024, he says they did it right
There is no monday morning QB here... he still thinks he was right 3 years later
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sturg33
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Reminds me of one candidate constantly crying on social media and being too scared to debate his opponents
Poor little beta