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Why push to have ballots destroyed when one side clearly wants to inspect further?
 
How is my analysis different than yours?

Because if the D votes margin increase far outpaced R vote margin (it did) you know what happened.

Further, I’ve always said that trump had illegal votes as well. Ds can’t dump 100% Biden votes. They need to dump high margin Biden votes to mask it.
 
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Republican votes grew 32% compared to 16% population growth.

Did you care to check how much D voters 'grew' over this time period?

Do you acutally believe thats organic and just the efforts of a pure GOTV campaign?

Surely you aren't htat naiive.
 
Did you care to check how much D voters 'grew' over this time period?

Do you acutally believe thats organic and just the efforts of a pure GOTV campaign?

Surely you aren't htat naiive.

Cherokee is 80% Republican. I’ll let them stomp out their own fires
 
Cherokee is 80% Republican. I’ll let them stomp out their own fires

But again - YOu came back at me with this comparison that would indicate the same oversized rate of growth existed in R counties so my underlying premise is wrong.

Then we dig into the details and we find that it was heavily due to D growth which seem scompletely outside of natural phenomena.

And after I show you this you default to "Well we will let GA figure it out!"

There is nothing to figure out once Chain of Custody is destroyed. The only way to sort it out is true existence testing and the corrupt DOJ said they would charge peoplke who tried to do so..,.
 
Thethe, I still think one of the biggest weaknesses of your general arguments of widespread voter fraud is how much control people who presumably wanted Trump to beat Biden had in many of the areas you’re claiming it happened in. It’s certainly not universal, but staunch Republicans in several states have spent 4 years looking for answers and haven’t found it yet.

I actually agree with all of you that election audits are a good thing and would encourage more, but a lot of the pushes for them from the right since 2020 have included approaches or parties that don’t want to audit the election so much as they want to deny its results and work in reverse to prove it.
 
Thethe, I still think one of the biggest weaknesses of your general arguments of widespread voter fraud is how much control people who presumably wanted Trump to beat Biden had in many of the areas you’re claiming it happened in. It’s certainly not universal, but staunch Republicans in several states have spent 4 years looking for answers and haven’t found it yet.

I actually agree with all of you that election audits are a good thing and would encourage more, but a lot of the pushes for them from the right since 2020 have included approaches or parties that don’t want to audit the election so much as they want to deny its results and work in reverse to prove it.

There is no need for 'control'.

You gut signature verification and you dump ballots in drop boxes.

You need no control of the election apparatus to acheive this. That is why canvassing scares the **** out of the left and why the DOJ basically forbid citizens to do so.
 
But again - YOu came back at me with this comparison that would indicate the same oversized rate of growth existed in R counties so my underlying premise is wrong.

Then we dig into the details and we find that it was heavily due to D growth which seem scompletely outside of natural phenomena.

And after I show you this you default to "Well we will let GA figure it out!"

There is nothing to figure out once Chain of Custody is destroyed. The only way to sort it out is true existence testing and the corrupt DOJ said they would charge peoplke who tried to do so..,.

I never suggested your premise was wrong. My point is you can’t draw conclusions by looking at outsized vote growth. Anomalies alone aren’t evidence of a conspiracy. Hence, my continued stance that election officials should have full authority to review the authenticity and integrity of their elections. Any policy that inhibits that should be striked down.
 
But again - YOu came back at me with this comparison that would indicate the same oversized rate of growth existed in R counties so my underlying premise is wrong.

Then we dig into the details and we find that it was heavily due to D growth which seem scompletely outside of natural phenomena.

And after I show you this you default to "Well we will let GA figure it out!"

There is nothing to figure out once Chain of Custody is destroyed. The only way to sort it out is true existence testing and the corrupt DOJ said they would charge peoplke who tried to do so..,.

Is your premise that there was voter fraud in certain select liberal areas to help push Biden over the top, or that was voter fraud literally everywhere, including republican strongholds?
 
I never suggested your premise was wrong. My point is you can’t draw conclusions by looking at outsized vote growth. Anomalies alone aren’t evidence of a conspiracy. Hence, my continued stance that election officials should have full authority to review the authenticity and integrity of their elections. Any policy that inhibits that should be striked down.

Eh - You can absolutely determine when vote growth outpaces population in addition to vote growth for D's vs R's in contested areas.

This is how anlaytics/audits are done across the business world. You make an argument with the data and then you push forward with validation.

Substantial arguments were made using data and the left blocked inspection at every turn.

There is a reason for that Chop
 
Is your premise that there was voter fraud in certain select liberal areas to help push Biden over the top, or that was voter fraud literally everywhere, including republican strongholds?

There was fraud everywhere in the country that provided dropboxes as an avenue to harvest ballots.

That is why there were mules in almost all contested states.
 
You gut signature verification and you dump ballots in drop boxes.

Couldn’t agree more. Democrats make a bad faith argument that voter ID laws are inherently racist. Elections should take place in person with early voting available but also restricted to in person only.
 
Couldn’t agree more. Democrats make a bad faith argument that voter ID laws are inherently racist. Elections should take place in person with early voting available but also restricted to in person only.

Of course its bad faith because Trump completely changed the game on demographic voting patterns. I assure you that Trump got a higher percentage of actual black voters who physically voted than the reported figure for 2020.
 
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