I think you should continue on with this line of reasoning. Its done a great job to convince the electorate.
Just remember, the excuse of 'cult' is a one time deal.
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I think you should continue on with this line of reasoning. Its done a great job to convince the electorate.
Just remember, the excuse of 'cult' is a one time deal.
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In contrast, the obvious choice:
Has delivered MAGA policies better than anyone in the country.
Won reelection in a historic beat down
Carried a massive legislature do a historic victory
Is facing zero indictments, and won't be bogged down during the campaign
Is young and can serve two terms
If MAGA is about policy... there is an obvious choice
Has delivered MAGA policies better than anyone in the country.
Won reelection in a historic beat down
Carried a massive legislature do a historic victory
Is facing zero indictments, and won't be bogged down during the campaign
Is young and can serve two terms
If MAGA is about policy... there is an obvious choice
Won re-election in a state that Trump is now polling 2X better than him.
Lets just say that any R would have won that election in a landslide.
sturg33
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I'm not on the campaign trail.
But you are literally the only person I interact with who voted for Trump in 2020 who still prefers Trump now. I have a few dozen friends who all are in the boat I'm in
I don't have any cult member friends though. So you're the only one I've tried to persuade and clearly am unable to do so with facts and logic
Yes - I am in a cult. Cult Cult Cult Cult.
sturg33
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If MAGA were about policy, they would celebrate turning Florida into Red California by delivering MAGA policies.
Instead, they dismiss it
MAGA ain't about policy...
Tapate50
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The one constant in all of this you can point to is “polls”
Yet they ran your ass over in 2022.
sturg33
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Polls consistently show good news for us.
Elections consistently show a different result.
Trump FL by 3.5 points. RDS won it by 19.5
Well the GOP won the popular vote and I'm guessing you believe that Arizona was a rigged election.
I'll let you take those two points and decide of the polls were accurate or not.
Ah the old national and statewide elecitons are hte same thing argument especially on non-presidential election years.
Not sure how to help this lack of basic undersatnding.
sturg33
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In 2018, RDS won by 0.4%. In 2022, 4 years later, he won by 19.4%
In 2016, Trump won Floriday by 1.2%, 4 years later, won by 3.5%
Please continue demonstrating you lack a fundamental understanding of these things.
sturg33
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In October 2007, HRC was polling at 48, and Obama at 21.
Obama won Iowa and everything shifted.
This is why we play out the process and don't nominate based on polls
So less of a margin than it is right now and Obama was a once in a generation orator that inspired millions around the world.
Please continue demonstrating you lack a fundamental understanding of these things.
sturg33
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I'm comparing two apples to apples races.
RDS underperformed Trump in 2018.
He whalloped him in 2022... he substantially grew his margin bc he was popular
I understand winning elections is rare in MAGA world but this is one they should be celebrating and promoting as the blueprint for its policies
sturg33
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Lol that's what you take from that?
In 2007 there were only 2 candidates.
Trump is very fortunate to have a crowded field once again like he had in 2016.
You are comparing presidential elections to off cycle elections.
You are comparing elections to where the D candidates wasn't even liked by D's in 2022 versus Biden for whateer reason was universally liked by D's.
Please continue demonstrating you lack a fundamental understanding of these things.
Ah - I was waiting for this argument as I've seen this make its way around the DeSimp influencer army recently.
sturg33
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I compared RDS improvement from 2018 and 2022, to Trumps improvement from 2020 to 2024.
If MAGA were about policy... they'd be celebrating successful MAGA governance. Instead, America first Trump started attacking him BEFORE the election (which appeared to not have made the slightest difference as RDS had a blowout)