2025-2026 offseason thread

If I'm AA I'm shooting higher for my Ozuna replacement than someone who's the short side of a platoon. I'm going after an everyday OF bat who allows Acuna plenty of PAs at DH.

There are definitely scenarios where Bader fits the roster, but certainly not as Plan A, B or C.
 
msstate7 said:
lol, bader and Kelenic aren't similar at all other than being white.

ETA... Kelenic isn't RH to start with. Vs rhp, he's 94 wrc+, so worse than Harris. He's a negative defender on top of that
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You are missing the point, as usual.

JK was a guy with heavy platoon splits (like Bader). And yes, he is LH, which is why I said JK was "playable more than 25% of the time." Also, JK was roughly average in CF last year, not negative.

So again, I find it hilarious you bitched about having a similar overall player all year last year, and now you want to sign the RH version of him to play 25% of the time for a similar hefty financial cost.
 
Carp said:
You are missing the point, as usual.

JK was a guy with heavy platoon splits (like Bader). And yes, he is LH, which is why I said JK was "playable more than 25% of the time." Also, JK was roughly average in CF last year, not negative.

So again, I find it hilarious you bitched about having a similar overall player all year last year, and now you want to sign the RH version of him to play 25% of the time for a similar hefty financial cost.
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Bader career fWAR - 16.2 (3 season at 2.9 or better, never a negative season)

Kelenic career fWAR - 0.9 fWAR (max at 1.5, 3 negative seasons out of 5).

Similar.
 
Enscheff said:
If I'm AA I'm shooting higher for my Ozuna replacement than someone who's the short side of a platoon. I'm going after an everyday OF bat who allows Acuna plenty of PAs at DH.

There are definitely scenarios where Bader fits the roster, but certainly not as Plan A, B or C.
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Bader is hardly my first choice. I want Tucker or bellinger. AA isn't gonna spend on them though. I'm not married to bader, but a RH CF option that doesn't break the bank feels realistic
 
Hudson2 said:
That's why I like Bellinger bc he can play all 3 OF spots and backup 1b well. This team needs to be more versatile instead of players who can only play 1 position or none at all.
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Olson doesn’t sit.

(But he also doesn’t shame other players for taking a rest day, like some other, lesser 1Bs around the league.)
 
jpx7 said:
Olson doesn’t sit.

(But he also doesn’t shame other players for taking a rest day, like some other, lesser 1Bs around the league.)
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Funny how after FF left, snit still plays the same lineup every night. FF's control from thousands of miles away is impressive
 
Carp said:
That's nice.

It's not remotely relevant to the discussion, but good for you.
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I'm wanting bader as Harris insurance/harris platoon. Kelenic was acquired to be our full time LF. They aren't the same hand. One is a real MLb player. I don't get the similarity at all.
 
msstate7 said:
I'm wanting bader as Harris insurance/harris platoon. Kelenic was acquired to be our full time LF. They aren't the same hand. One is a real MLb player. I don't get the similarity at all.
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1. What Bader was in his prime from 2018 -2021 is irrelevant to the player he is now. He's been a replacement level player (or worse) for 3 of the last 4 years.

2. I understand exactly why JK was acquired. But the player JK was in 2024 (when you were bitching about JK all season) is pretty friggin similar to the player Bader has been for most of the last 4 years, at least as a hitter. Bader provides better D for sure, but JK was perfectly capable of playing CF reasonably well. And JK was stronger against RHP, which is more important.

3. Bader almost assuredly is going to require starter level salary over 2-3 years. If I had to guess, I would say it will be similar to the deal that Tyler O'Neil and Profar signed last offseason (3/45 range). So yeah, count me out on that.
 
Harrison Bader, last 4 seasons combined

.252/.305/.389 (.694 OPS) 94 wRC+, .303 wOBA. And let's face it, his 2025 season brought these numbers up A LOT. By the way, his xwOBA is only .314 this year.


JK in 2024

.231/.286/.393 (.679 OPS) 87 wRC+, .294 wOBA


So unless you his 2025 season is the norm, I stand by what I said. You bitched about JK all 2024 and now you want to sign a similar overall player (to the 2024 JK) at a similar financial cost?
 
If you're gonna say bader's babip in 2025 (.369) is good luck (which it is), then you should probably concede his babip in '23 and '24 combined (.269) is bad luck (which it is).

Again though, it doesn't have to be bader. He's just a realistic option. Anyone thinking we getting bellinger or tucker is insane. Here's what they're projected to get...

Bellinger 6 years, 182 million
Tucker 12 years, 498 million

sports.yahoo.com

Yankees' Cody Bellinger gets $182 million contract update ahead of free agency

Cody Bellinger could be in for a big payday if he decides to opt out of his current contract with the Yankees.
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If you don't wanna be let down, you better start looking at guys like bader.
 
I listed what his overall stats are the last 4 years. That is going to take into account all the good and bad luck he's had. Even still, his .276 BABIP in 2024 wasn't that much lower than his career average (which was below .300 before this season). His .369 BABIP this year is 66 points better than his career average. THAT is luck.

Also, the trade market does exist. So those 3 players are not out only options. I would also be surprised to see Bellinger get 6 years or 180 million. I think he gets slightly more than what Santander got last season. So around 5/110, maybe a 6 yr option. If he were a true CFer, I could see him getting closer to 180. As a corner OFer, he's sort of good, not great.
 
Carp said:
I listed what his overall stats are the last 4 years. That is going to take into account all the good and bad luck he's had. Even still, his .276 BABIP in 2024 wasn't that much lower than his career average (which was below .300 before this season). His .369 BABIP this year is 66 points better than his career average. THAT is luck.

Also, the trade market does exist. So those 3 players are not out only options. I would also be surprised to see Bellinger get 6 years or 180 million. I think he gets slightly more than what Santander got last season. So around 5/110, maybe a 6 yr option. If he were a true CFer, I could see him getting closer to 180. As a corner OFer, he's sort of good, not great.
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Fine, and on a team that had the worst OF in baseball for the 1st half, JK was sporting a .600 ops in AAA. They aren't similar, at all.

And who are some of the trade options? It's easy to just jump on a suggestion, but you won't make one yourself.
 
I heard Ward from the Angels and Kwan from the Guardians as possible trade candidates.

Not a lot of OF options out there right now.
 
Enscheff said:
I heard Ward from the Angels and Kwan from the Guardians as possible trade candidates.

Not a lot of OF options out there right now.
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I would love both those guys and rotate DH. I just don't think we can count on Harris being full time... a backup plan needs to be in place
 
jpx7 said:
Olson doesn’t sit.

(But he also doesn’t shame other players for taking a rest day, like some other, lesser 1Bs around the league.)
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Yep but at some point it's gonna catch up to him I'm afraid. That's a lot of wear and tear. It'd be nice to have somebody on the roster that can actually play over there and be good if they had too.
 
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